Self build with question on ber and deap analysis

Confusedbyregs

Hi to anyone reading. I am new to this so please bear with me.
I have full permission to build a small loghouse.

Is it correct that i need a ber record that gets an A rating,so that the engineer will prepare and submit a deap analysis to the council before i can submit a commencement notice?

Is this neccesary/mandatory?
Can I just submit the commencement notice and have the engineer sign off on the stages and final cert?

I don't have a mortgage,so are all these stages neccesary too?

One more thing...
I have been told that to meet A rating for ber, I should install an air to water heat pump as I have four exposed walls.
This is not a system i want or need for a little wooden fully insulated house.
Any thoughts out there? Thanks.

Calahonda52

On the Heat pump, there now is a renewable energy requirement element in the Building regs so whoever is advising you just decided this was the way to do it.

It is not the only way.

Who got the planning for you and who did the energy demand calculation leading to the Heat pump.

the paper work question is beyond my pay grade:)

Gumbo

Confusedbyregs wrote: »

Hi to anyone reading. I am new to this so please bear with me.

I have full permission to build a small loghouse.

Is it correct that i need a ber record that gets an A rating so that the engineer will prepare and submit a deap analysisto the council before i can submit a commencement notice? Is this neccesary?

Can't i just submit the commencement notice and have the engineer sign off on the stages and final cert?

I don't have a mortgage so are all these stages neccesary too? One more thing...
i have been told that to meet A rating for ber i should install an air to water heat pump as i have four exposed walls.

This is not a system i want ir need for a little wooden fully insulated house.

Any thoughts out there? Thanks.

Yes you need to meet current Building Regulations with regards to BER/DEAP/Air Tightness/Insulation.

Your BER Assessor should go through the different options with you to work out a cost effective plan.

Are you opting in or out of Statutory Certification?

Somebody needs to do the calculations to ensure compliance.

Is it a genuine Log house or a traditional house with a log style exterior cladding?

Confusedbyregs

What is statutory certifiction?

It is full log build ( exterior and interior with 150mm insulation in walls).

Thank you for response ;-)

Gumbo

Confusedbyregs wrote: »

What is statutory certifiction?

It is full log build ( exterior and interior with 150mm insulation in walls).

Thank you for response ;-)

When you lodge your commencement notice, will you have an assigned Certifier or will you opt out?

What is a section through the hoise look like?
Have construction drawings been prepared or have you just got planning application drawings?

Google "Building Control Ammendment Regulations"

Confusedbyregs

An engineer says he will draw up the deap analysis when gets the ber from an accessor.

Then when he has deap ready he will submit it with commencement notice.

He will then sign off on each stage of the build to and including the finished product.

I have full planning permission that was granted on planning drawings.

I don't understand what part i can " opt out" of. Is that the deap analysis?

Thank you :-)

Gumbo

Confusedbyregs wrote: »

An engineer says he will draw up the deap analysis when gets the ber from an accessor.

Then when he has deap ready he will submit it with commencement notice.

He will then sign off on each stage of the build to and including the finished product.

I have full planning permission that was granted on planning drawings.

I don't understand what part i can " opt out" of. Is that the deap analysis?

Thank you :-)

Your BER assessor will need construction details in order to carry out the DEAP analysis. The engineer and the assesor needs to be working hand in hand.

You need to google the BCAR system. You have to either opt in or opt out of certification. SI9 and SI365 and two other terms you should google to gain some further info.

Ask your engineer if he is completing the commencement notice process.
It has to be done online. And he has to choose to either lodge documentation (opt in) or not to lodge documentation (opt out).

Is he acting as Assogned Certifier ?

sydthebeat

Confusedbyregs wrote: »

An engineer says he will draw up the deap analysis when gets the ber from an accessor.

Then when he has deap ready he will submit it with commencement notice.

He will then sign off on each stage of the build to and including the finished product.

I have full planning permission that was granted on planning drawings.

I don't understand what part i can " opt out" of. Is that the deap analysis?

Thank you :-)

sorry but thats non sensical...

the DEAP analysis IS the BER (well, its is what has become known as the BER at the start of the build)

so either the BER assessor does the DEAP analysis to shown compliance with building regs, or the engineer does it.

If the BER assessor does it, he should be willing to provide ancillary certification to that effect at the end of the build (as long as you do whats in the report obviously)

read here in regards to opt in or opt out


also please note, a final BER certificate is required once the build is complete

Calahonda52

Confusedbyregs wrote: »

I have full planning permission that was granted on planning drawings.

Thank you :-)

What RE element was included in the planning app to meet Part L
Was this the heat pump?
http://www.environ.ie/sites/default/files/migrated-files/en/Publications/DevelopmentandHousing/BuildingStandards/FileDownLoad%2C27316%2Cen.pdf
Page 5, my emphasis
L3 For new dwellings, the requirements of L1 shall be met by: -
(a) providing that the energy performance of the dwelling is such as to limit the calculated primary energy consumption and related carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions insofar as is reasonably practicable, when both energy consumption and carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions are calculated using the Dwelling Energy Assessment Procedure (DEAP) published by Sustainable Energy Authority of Ireland;
(b) providing that, for new dwellings, a reasonable proportion of the energy consumption to meet the energy performance of a dwelling is provided by renewable energy sources;
(c) limiting heat loss and, where appropriate, availing of heat gain through the fabric of the building;
(d) providing and commissioning energy efficient space and water heating systems with efficient heat sources and effective controls;
(e) providing that all oil and gas fired boilers shall meet a minimum seasonal efficiency of 90%;
(f) providing to the dwelling owner sufficient information about the building, the fixed building services and their maintenance requirements so that the building can be operated in such a manner as to use no more fuel and energy than is reasonable.