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When will I get my Tax Credit Certificate after sending off my 12A?

  • 12-07-2016 2:58pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44


    So, turns out my employer didn't register me when I started working about 5 months ago. Great. My p45 was from 2015 so I had to fill out a 12a form. It was sent out on Friday.

    How long will it take before I receive my tax credit certificate? I want to leave my job so I can move, but my boss wants me to wait until he receives my tax credit certificate. I don't know how long I'd have gone unregistered had I not said I was quitting!! I was planning on being gone in the next week or two, am I stuck here for even longer now?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,431 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Have you been paying 50% of your wages in tax? If not, then your employer might be in spot of bother ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,301 ✭✭✭✭gerrybbadd


    Have you been paying 50% of your wages in tax? If not, then your employer might be in spot of bother ....

    What? Why would they be in bother?

    Emergency rate of tax is 40%

    Post levels in a lot of the tax offices is pretty low at the minute, so Form 12A's would be processed fairly quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭scheister


    ExParrot42 wrote: »
    So, turns out my employer didn't register me when I started working about 5 months ago. Great. My p45 was from 2015 so I had to fill out a 12a form. It was sent out on Friday.

    How long will it take before I receive my tax credit certificate? I want to leave my job so I can move, but my boss wants me to wait until he receives my tax credit certificate. I don't know how long I'd have gone unregistered had I not said I was quitting!! I was planning on being gone in the next week or two, am I stuck here for even longer now?

    Why are you filling out a form 12A? AFAIK a 12A is only used if this is your 1st employment in Ireland and you have stated you have a P45 from 2015 so id assumed thats an Irish P45 and not from another country.
    If it is Irish all you need to do is call up the PAYE section with your PPS number and you employers number and Revenue will issue and assign the credits in 2-3 working days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,145 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    What? Why would they be in bother?

    Emergency rate of tax is 40%

    Post levels in a lot of the tax offices is pretty low at the minute, so Form 12A's would be processed fairly quickly.

    Most people would include PRSI and USC in their idea of "tax" even though they would not be taxes officially. On emergency tax these eventually bring the rate to well over 50%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,431 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    gerrybbadd wrote: »
    What? Why would they be in bother?

    Emergency rate of tax is 40%

    Post levels in a lot of the tax offices is pretty low at the minute, so Form 12A's would be processed fairly quickly.


    The OP said:
    I want to leave my job so I can move, but my boss wants me to wait until he receives my tax credit certificate.

    This sounds really dodgy: the employer "forgot" to register the employee? If so, they should have been charging them emergency tax, at the full rate (effectively approx 50% from week 9). If this was happening, I'd have expected the employee to have notice and complained some time ago.

    My guess is that the employer either hasn't been deducting tax at all, or has approximated and potentially right-royally f***ed it up. For the OPs sake, I hope that the employer really does get it sorted.

    But there's a chance that the OP will leave anyway - and possibly get news from Revenue that the employer hasn't remitted any PAYE, PRSI etc for them. Worse case, the employee will be told that they now need to pay this to Revenue (even if the employer has withheld some cash from the employee to cover for this. This would explain the employer wanting the employee to stay until they can do one payroll run for them with the proper tax credits.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 ExParrot42


    The OP said:



    This sounds really dodgy: the employer "forgot" to register the employee? If so, they should have been charging them emergency tax, at the full rate (effectively approx 50% from week 9). If this was happening, I'd have expected the employee to have notice and complained some time ago.

    My guess is that the employer either hasn't been deducting tax at all, or has approximated and potentially right-royally f***ed it up. For the OPs sake, I hope that the employer really does get it sorted.

    But there's a chance that the OP will leave anyway - and possibly get news from Revenue that the employer hasn't remitted any PAYE, PRSI etc for them. Worse case, the employee will be told that they now need to pay this to Revenue (even if the employer has withheld some cash from the employee to cover for this. This would explain the employer wanting the employee to stay until they can do one payroll run for them with the proper tax credits.

    I've since been told that my taxes were held, that the accountant has it sorted out and all will be fine after my last paycheck goes through. (Should be tomorrow, they said I'll get a p45.) As for the 12A, I tried ringing up the tax office and registering myself but couldn't. The woman on the phone told me I had to fill out the 12A even though I've worked in Ireland before. Even weirder still, she told me she had no record of my being employed in 2015 either...but I have a bunch of tax forms and even a return from 2015. Confusing.

    Fingers crossed this all goes smoothly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 ExParrot42


    Oh - I got my Tax Credit Certificate yesterday. So for anyone else looking, it takes about 2 weeks right now.


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