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Kia Optima or Hyundai i40 1.7 Diesel

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  • 11-07-2016 9:35am
    #1
    tcow
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    Hi,
    Looking at buying one of these - a 2010 to 2012 Kia Optima 1.7 Crdi, or Hyundai i40 1.7 Diesel?

    Does anyone know anything about these cars? Are they reliable? Which would be the better of the two? Would they be as reliable as the Avensis / Mondeo etc.

    Please vote on my Poll

    Hyundai i40 1.7d or Kia Optima 1.7d for most reliable 9 votes

    Hyundai i40 1.7d
    11% 1 vote
    Kia Optima 1.7d
    88% 8 votes
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    #2
    alias no.9
    Registered Users Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    They're the same car in different clothing, I doubt there'll be much to differentiate between them other than personal preference or perhaps the finance deal available


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    alias no.9 wrote: »
    They're the same car in different clothing, I doubt there'll be much to differentiate between them other than personal preference or perhaps the finance deal available


    thanks for that. much appreciated. is there some connection between both manufacturers?


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    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    tcow wrote: »
    thanks for that. much appreciated. is there some connection between both manufacturers?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kia_Motors#Affiliations_and_subsidiaries
    As of December 31, 2014, the Hyundai Motor Company owns a 33.88% stake in Kia Motors.

    Likewise, As of December 31, 2014 Kia Motors is an owner in 19 different Hyundai companies. Their ownership percentages range from 5.23-40%.


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    grogi wrote: »
    Kia Motors is partly (33.88%) owned by Hyundai Motor Company.

    thanks for that. So .... Kia optima 1.7d or Hundai i40 1.7d for best reliability?? :rolleyes:


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    grogi
    Registered Users Posts: 8,615 ✭✭✭grogi


    tcow wrote: »
    thanks for that. So .... Kia optima 1.7d or Hundai i40 1.7d for best reliability?? :rolleyes:

    The one that feels better.


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    Do all the newer Hyundais have the electronic handbrake?


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    would the hyundai i40 be on par with the likes of Avensis / Mondeo for reliability?


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,157 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Just buy a Honda Accord for reliability.


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Just buy a Honda Accord for reliability.

    id imagine it would be very heavy on diesel tho, it being a 2.2!


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    alias no.9
    Registered Users Posts: 6,268 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    tcow wrote: »
    thanks for that. So .... Kia optima 1.7d or Hundai i40 1.7d for best reliability?? :rolleyes:

    The engine and drive train are the same, most of the electronics and even swithchgear will be the same. It's very unlikely that one will significantly outperform the other. Buy the one you like best or the one you can get the best deal on if this is the limit of your options.


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    alias no.9 wrote: »
    The engine and drive train are the same, most of the electronics and even swithchgear will be the same. It's very unlikely that one will significantly outperform the other. Buy the one you like best or the one you can get the best deal on if this is the limit of your options.


    thanks for that. The Accord would be up tehre also, but i think the MPG would be lower in the accord


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,157 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Most i40s sold here are 115bhp whereas the Opitma is 136bhp. Optimas tend to be better equipped too and you won't be mistake for a Garda.


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    R.O.R
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    If it's down to just the i40 or the Optima, I'd go for the i40.

    Having driven both of them, I didn't utterly hate the i40.

    I've driven a lot of different cars in that segment, and was looking forward to the Optima (would have been a 2013 model when it was new) as it's a cracking looking car, but it was probably the worst car I'd driven (and probably still right up there) since they finished building the Primera.

    Engine was good, but visibility was poor, my head was brushing the roof cloth when I leaned slightly forward (I'm 5ft 10") and the seats were about as uncomfortable as anything I've ever been in.


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    noelf
    Registered Users Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭noelf


    I remember a Hyundai i40 owner posting here that they weren't impressed with the fuel economy of their car .. Do a search on "Hyundai i40 fuel efficiency" on boards ..


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,157 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The Accord wasn't the most frugal on fuel in it's class but a smaller engine in cars of this size don't automatically mean they are more fuel efficient.


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    bazz26 wrote: »
    The Accord wasn't the most frugal on fuel in it's class but a smaller engine in cars of this size don't automatically mean they are more fuel efficient.


    just went for a test drive on a 2012 i40. revs at 2000rpm and still only doing 100kph, cant be good!!! wasnt too impressed anyway. Car felt a lot lighter than it looks.


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    murdig
    Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭murdig


    I'd go with the optima,I got one as a company car last year and have done 115,000kms with it since new and not a bother with it.
    Very comfortable seating although you do seem a bit far back from the dash even with seat up close.
    Average fuel useage is around the 5.5l pe 100km.
    Will be interested in how it is after 3 years but no complaints so far


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    #19
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,394 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Is yours the new face lifted one?


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    blackbox
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    bazz26 wrote: »
    Most i40s sold here are 115bhp whereas the Opitma is 136bhp. Optimas tend to be better equipped too and you won't be mistake for a Garda.

    The Hyundai estate has the higher power engine too. I have a 2013 Optima. I don't consider it too slow (for a diesel), but I wouldn't want it slower. 115 sounds low for a biggish saloon.


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    Giacomo McGubbin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Giacomo McGubbin


    More or less same cars, different styling, Hyundai own a third of Kia and Kia own about Kia own about 19 different Hyundai subsidiary companies.

    They Hyundai will hold it's value slightly more than the kia.


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    Giacomo McGubbin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Giacomo McGubbin


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Just buy a Honda Accord for reliability.

    or being expensively boring. Their hay day was the 90's.


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    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,394 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The few hundred i40s the Gardai got will affect the resale value on the i40. The fact that the Kia has been a more comprehensive refresh and the longer warranty would probably help it too.


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    Giacomo McGubbin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Giacomo McGubbin


    The Guards driving Toyota's never affect them.


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    #25
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,394 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Nope, but the i40 was never a big seller, so it's identity in Ireland now is a squad car.


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    Giacomo McGubbin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Giacomo McGubbin


    Maybe in your head but we don't all have to climb in there ;)


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    bazz26
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    Giacomo McGubbin wrote: »
    or being expensively boring. Their hay day was the 90's.

    If you mean by boring not breaking down or having to wonder what the frack is wrong with it now, then yes your right.


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    Giacomo McGubbin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Giacomo McGubbin


    bazz26 wrote: »
    If you mean by boring not breaking down or having to wonder what the frack is wrong with it now, then yes your right.

    untill you find out they need the same parts as every other car, but are a rip off


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    #29
    ba_barabus
    Registered Users Posts: 9,615 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Op there have been a few posts here regarding the reliability of the i40. Some owners have been less than impressed. Now if it's just bad luck or a sign of poor quality I can't say. Personally I don't understand what the fuss is about the i40. The styling, comfort, interior quality and price never seems to match the hype to me.


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    #30
    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,157 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Giacomo McGubbin wrote: »
    untill you find out they need the same parts as every other car, but are a rip off

    I'm sure I could poke holes in everyone's else's suggestions at this rate too.


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    Toyotafanboi
    Registered Users Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    Op there have been a few posts here regarding the reliability of the i40. Some owners have been less than impressed. Now if it's just bad luck or a sign of poor quality I can't say. Personally I don't understand what the fuss is about the i40. The styling, comfort, interior quality and price never seems to match the hype to me.

    They actually aren't that flakey. Clutches do give trouble, so if it's notchy getting gear, that'l need doing. Luckily, Hyundai have been covering these on warranty.

    Other that that they are fairly solid. I think they look well, interior feels solid enough. The "infotainment" or lack of, is one of it's biggest stumbling blocks vs it's competitors i'd say.


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