No job, losing the will to try.

LittleBrick

I've been a primary teacher for 2 years, but at this point i don't want to do it any more. Not because of the job. I absolutely love working with children and teaching. It's the no job situation. The most i've gotten has been 2 weeks substitute work. I've applied to every job going, but haven't even received an interview. I've gone to seminars to ix my application form and cover letter, i've tried everything. Is it time to just give it up? Or does anyone have a similar story to mine with a happy ending?

endacl

Unfortunately, 2 years is barely starting these days. Keep trying.

Afroshack

Go to the UK. You'll get work in no time and it looks great on a C.V

wirelessdude01

You do realise that the host of one of those education seminars has never actually got a teaching job via an interview. Got a maternity leave through subbing which meant when it became permanent that they were already in the job and thus 99% sure of getting it. Some of them like the sound of their own publicity.

Bin your SAF, C.V. and application letter and start again. That is what I did. If possible get a principal to have a look at them when your are finished them to see what changes they recommend.

evolving_doors

Afroshack wrote: »

Go to the UK. You'll get work in no time and it looks great on a C.V

I'd especially take this guy's advice:)
If you've no family ties/mortgage then get your experience there. This is what counts on a CV more so than the wording. You'll get experience in spades over there. I know of 2 primary teachers returning from the UK starting the search for work... this is your competition I reckon.

Crazyteacher

You're not going to like my response but you could be just right to, start training / getting experience in other careers. Most subs I know are are doing 5-7 years of subbing before giving up. Then they have to start over and work their way up those payscales. That's what it is realistically like. The colleges never warn people about that , not that they are there to warn students but a lot don't realise how bad it is out there.

wpd

would suggest you look at UK as well

my son is a secondary school teacher and in London since he finished HDip
doing much better than class mates that stayed here

hockey21

LittleBrick wrote: »

I've been a primary teacher for 2 years, but at this point i don't want to do it any more. Not because of the job. I absolutely love working with children and teaching. It's the no job situation. The most i've gotten has been 2 weeks substitute work. I've applied to every job going, but haven't even received an interview. I've gone to seminars to ix my application form and cover letter, i've tried everything. Is it time to just give it up? Or does anyone have a similar story to mine with a happy ending?

Hi I am just wondering have u worked in Dublin or is that where u are trying? At the minute there seems to be a lot of work in Dublin as so many schools there. you just need one principal to give u a break. Have u ur dip done this wud be a help if u don't go to a school and tell a principal u need to get your dip done. Realistically it would take 4 years minimum to build up your service to get onto the supplementary panel which can be difficult to get off it. Have u signed up for text a sub, into sub lists, gone round to schools with ur cv? If u have done all of this and tried Dublin I would say get somebody to look at your application form there may be something really obvious sticking out that u may not see.

Hope this helps keep going if u love it think it's going to take a while to be permanent but think of the flexibility you have subbing and at the end of the day if u love it a principal will eventually c your love for the job and make u permanent don't give up keep upskilling Sen qualifications are good to have for your career as Sen children integrated into mainstream it would help your classroom management and maybe try do something on literacy and numeracy and defo have aistear. Hope this helps 😊

LittleBrick

I don't live in Dublin, but am applying for jobs there with my cousins Dublin address. I don't have my dip, and think this may be part of the issue, but no school is willing to give it to me. i'm just disillusioned with the whole thing

hockey21

LittleBrick wrote: »

I don't live in Dublin, but am applying for jobs there with my cousins Dublin address. I don't have my dip, and think this may be part of the issue, but no school is willing to give it to me. i'm just disillusioned with the whole thing

Keep going go in person to big schools in Dublin they always have maternity leaves, sick leave random days the bigger the school the more of a chance u have of getting something. Schools numbers in Dublin seem to be on the rise especially in west Dublin where I used to work but have since relocated and am subbing after 15 years of being permanent so I know ur pain. I know it's really hard but keep going u will eventually get something 😊 Keep reminding it's a job you love keep thinking u just need one lovely principal to give u a break. Best of luck.

gaiscioch

LittleBrick wrote: »

I don't live in Dublin, but am applying for jobs there with my cousins Dublin address. I don't have my dip, and think this may be part of the issue, but no school is willing to give it to me. i'm just disillusioned with the whole thing

Surely if you don't have a B.Ed you need the dip to be paid as a teacher? Is a dip not the basic qualification to teach in primary if you don't have the B. Ed? If you have the B. Ed then the Dip is superfluous. I could be totally misunderstanding this.

The only advice I'll give is what I've given so many others here. Imagine you get your full-time, permanent teaching post tomorrow and you're delighted. Work out what year you want to buy a house, and calculate your salary at that point. Then multiply that salary by 3.5 (the Central Bank mortgage lending limit) and see what you'll get on MyHome.ie or Daft.ie for that price. Even, if you want to stretch it, imagine you have a partner who can get the same loan as you. If the house purchase finances then work, continue on with teaching if you have all your qualifications already. If not, perhaps a career change might be smarter before you're in a deeper hole. 2 years, with the greatest of respect, isn't long at all but you could be well on the way to qualifying as a solicitor/accountant etc in two years.

Naoko

gaiscioch wrote: »

Surely if you don't have a B.Ed you need the dip to be paid as a teacher? Is a dip not the basic qualification to teach in primary if you don't have the B. Ed? If you have the B. Ed then the Dip is superfluous. I could be totally misunderstanding this.

The only advice I'll give is what I've given so many others here. Imagine you get your full-time, permanent teaching post tomorrow and you're delighted. Work out what year you want to buy a house, and calculate your salary at that point. Then multiply that salary by 3.5 (the Central Bank mortgage lending limit) and see what you'll get on MyHome.ie or Daft.ie for that price. Even, if you want to stretch it, imagine you have a partner who can get the same loan as you. If the house purchase finances then work, continue on with teaching if you have all your qualifications already. If not, perhaps a career change might be smarter before you're in a deeper hole. 2 years, with the greatest of respect, isn't long at all but you could be well on the way to qualifying as a solicitor/accountant etc in two years.

The primary 'dip' is not the teaching qualification. It's like a certificate of PQE awarded to qualified teachers after a series of inspections. (I'm sure a primary teacher will come along and explain it better.)

mcgowak3

<MOD SNIP> ok ok we get the message, you work for a recruitment agency... No touting allowed please.
Mod