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VRT on UK car question

  • 01-07-2016 11:26am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭


    I have just bought a 3 year old car up the north with the weak sterling etc.

    I have a printout of the VRT revenue page for the car as to my liability.

    I imported my last car 8 years ago and went into VRT Reg centre, handed over the same revenue page with a cheque and was on my way.

    My concern this time is the car is as specked for this model and so all is standard on it. However the same model has difference's here. Mainly the Irish version of this model, although highly spec'ed, doesn't have sat nav for example. So even though it's not considered an extra in the UK will it liable for extra VRT Here ? I know I will be liable for silver paint as that's extra both areas.

    Also, I see NCT centres are now taking payment for registering VRT on cars. How forensic are these guys? Would it be better to avoid them?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Alot of things have changed in 8 years. The NCT handle VRT now so you cannot avoid them. You need to make a VRT inspection appointment on their website within 7 days of bringing the car into the country and the entire VRT and registration process needs to be completed within 30 days. They have a database where they will enter the car's VIN and it will give them back a VRT figure. If the car is not on their system then they need to refer to Revenue for a figure. If the imported car needs to be NCT'd then that is a seperate appointment made after the car is transferred to Irish plates.

    All the specific details are available on their website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    I have just bought a 3 year old car up the north with the weak sterling etc.

    I have a printout of the VRT revenue page for the car as to my liability.

    I imported my last car 8 years ago and went into VRT Reg centre, handed over the same revenue page with a cheque and was on my way.

    My concern this time is the car is as specked for this model and so all is standard on it. However the same model has difference's here. Mainly the Irish version of this model, although highly spec'ed, doesn't have sat nav for example. So even though it's not considered an extra in the UK will it liable for extra VRT Here ? I know I will be liable for silver paint as that's extra both areas.

    Also, I see NCT centres are now taking payment for registering VRT on cars. How forensic are these guys? Would it be better to avoid them?

    You can't avoid the NCT as that's the only place. If the car is new they'll have the UK vs Irish specs, and any extras, already so you have to pay what they say. You can then appeal if you think you over paid, but you have to pay first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Unless it's some exotic super rare car then the VRT figure will be available on the ros.ie website for the make/model and spec of your car. It's itrelevant that the sane model doesn't exist here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Troy McClure


    The same model does exist here. Its the spec that's different. It's just a skoda. When I put it into the VRT revenue website it gives me the wrong emissions though. I had to change that figure in the box provided. Do the NCT go through this kind of detail though? There is a VRT centre in tallaght which may be better?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    The V5 will have all the details, this is used to calculate VRT.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,908 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    About time someone challenged VRT in court. A precedent needs to be set.
    All this talk of EU and free trade, yet we charge an illegal tax on cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,712 ✭✭✭✭R.O.R


    About time someone challenged VRT in court. A precedent needs to be set.
    All this talk of EU and free trade, yet we charge an illegal tax on cars.

    Can you explain how it's an illegal tax, or is just the same old bollox again?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭bennya


    I went through the exact same process a couple of months ago, brought in a Peugeot 508 Allure which has satnav as standard in the UK but not here.

    Once you have the V5 with you confirming the emissions value you should be good to go.

    The estimate on ros.ie was exactly what I had to pay, everything was very straightforward and quick.

    B


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,908 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    R.O.R wrote: »
    Can you explain how it's an illegal tax, or is just the same old bollox again?

    It's a '' tax'' it's in its name .

    Yea it should cost to register a uk car here, some paperwork ,small fees. This is a tax though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Not the VRT is illegal claim again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,522 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The specs on the vrt calculator are uk specs, so what the car has vs an Irish spec car makes no difference.


    Not another vrt debate. We aren't the only country in the eu to have one, and ours is nowhere near the highest. Tax goes towards paying for all the stuff that keeps a country running. Every country is different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭FrontDoor


    bennya wrote: »
    brought in a Peugeot 508 Allure
    B

    How do you find it?

    Nice looking car, especially the updated model. Apparently very reliable and a totally different proposition to the 407.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,908 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Not the VRT is illegal claim again.

    The tax on trucks was challenged in court, it set a precedent and was 333 to tax all trucks for a year. Used to be 5000 to tax some trucks.
    VRT not illegal just a rip off that needs challenging .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Troy McClure


    bennya wrote: »
    I went through the exact same process a couple of months ago, brought in a Peugeot 508 Allure which has satnav as standard in the UK but not here.

    Once you have the V5 with you confirming the emissions value you should be good to go.

    The estimate on ros.ie was exactly what I had to pay, everything was very straightforward and quick.

    B

    Thanks for that. Did the note any extra's like metallic paint etc? or even bring up the subject? Did they examine the car? Where did you do it?

    Note to others please open another thread on the illegal tax issue I am trying to get some specific info beyond a debate. tks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭millington


    The tax on trucks was challenged in court, it set a precedent and was 333 to tax all trucks for a year. Use to be 5000 to tax some trucks.
    VRT not illegal just a rip off that needs challenging .

    Commercial vehicle tax being unfair is irrelevant to the legality of VRT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Troy McClure


    Can you please take this debate elsewhere??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭savagethegoat


    It's an avoidable tax as far as imports go...if you don't want to pay it , don't import a car. Buy one someone else paid the VRT on.

    Would you rather the tax was added to something else instead or services reduced?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭bennya


    FrontDoor wrote: »
    How do you find it?

    Nice looking car, especially the updated model. Apparently very reliable and a totally different proposition to the 407.

    Love it so far. 2.0HDi 140bhp engine, so plenty of power. Can't imagine the experience with a 1.6 would be great.

    B


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭bennya


    Thanks for that. Did the note any extra's like metallic paint etc? or even bring up the subject? Did they examine the car? Where did you do it?

    Note to others please open another thread on the illegal tax issue I am trying to get some specific info beyond a debate. tks

    I had it inspected at Northpoint 2, Ballymun. All very straightforward, they just took the V5, bill of sale from the UK, ferry details and personal doc's, went out and did a short inspection themselves, and came back with the same quote I'd arrived at. Whole process took about 20 minutes from start to finish.

    Got the reg number on the spot, and a PIN that allowed me to tax the car online after 24 hours (contrary to the official line that you have to go to a physical tax office).

    B


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭FrontDoor


    bennya wrote: »
    Love it so far. 2.0HDi 140bhp engine, so plenty of power. Can't imagine the experience with a 1.6 would be great.

    B

    Good stuff.

    That engine is meant to be excellent.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 309 ✭✭Troy McClure


    bennya wrote: »
    I had it inspected at Northpoint 2, Ballymun. All very straightforward, they just took the V5, bill of sale from the UK, ferry details and personal doc's, went out and did a short inspection themselves, and came back with the same quote I'd arrived at. Whole process took about 20 minutes from start to finish.

    Got the reg number on the spot, and a PIN that allowed me to tax the car online after 24 hours (contrary to the official line that you have to go to a physical tax office).

    B
    Thanks, Why did they need the bill of sale and ferry details?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    All VRT inspection information is available on the NCT website:

    https://www.ncts.ie/1155


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭KELTICKNIGHTT


    I got UK reg jeep lately and did vrt .was easy enough. Got Irish plates same day and taxed it 48 hours later .only after this will department of transport send logbook after you have book you can book nct .not before


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭savagethegoat


    Thanks, Why did they need the bill of sale and ferry details?

    so they can work out any penalty on a late registration


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 133 ✭✭bennya


    Yep, it's basically evidence of when the car was purchased and evidence of when it entered the state.

    One thing to watch out for is that they correctly identify the date that the NCT is due based on the V5 date of first registration. My own car is a Nov 2012 so isn't liable until then (and the Northpoint folks were on the ball in that respect), but it's possible to be caught out if it's not picked up.

    (edit: so just to be clear, this only applies to cars four years old or less, and is to make sure the NCT liability is properly determined and doesn't end up being required earlier by mistake.)

    B


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