Timesheet etiquette

Dayor Knight

So here's the question..... you put your name on a timesheet, and another player joins you, then you piss off to another time slot, is that bad form? Or you're in 2 ball and you pull out leaving the other player high and dry. Anybody on here got any views on that? Is it something that happens at your club? Have you done it yourself? I suppose it can depend on the player(s) in question but say you don't know or barely know the other players?

Boskowski

I always thought pulling out on short notice is a bit bad. Unless of course it can't be helped. Pulling out for a better time I wouldn't do on the day itself but say more than 24 hours before tee off is not too bad.

Macker1

In my opinion it depends on the time frame involved. Jumping ship the night before on on the day is poor form and it gives little chance for someone else to take your spot. I would most certainly try to contact the other player and make apologies.

Senna

How about if a 2 ball are on the time sheet for 9am, but there 2x 3 balls out at 8.40 and 8.30. Preferring to play in a 4 ball as the time sheet is very full, is it OK the night before to move your name, hopping that the other player will also join the other 3 ball.

Assuming I have no way to contact the other player in advance.

HighLine

Senna wrote: »

How about if a 2 ball are on the time sheet for 9am, but there 2x 3 balls out at 8.40 and 8.30. Preferring to play in a 4 ball as the time sheet is very full, is it OK the night before to move your name, hopping that the other player will also join the other 3 ball.

Assuming I have no way to contact the other player in advance.

Definitely not OK. It's never good to leave someone on their own and switch to another slot. Of course, if you gave him a call and explained the situation then that would be grand.

Armchair Andy

If I was left in the lurch like that I'd not be playing with that player again. I've pulled my name at the latest 6pm the night before. Not ideal for the lad but in his shoes I'd appreciate something unexpected came up.

Worst of all are the 4 balls who put their name down on a busy slot yet rarely turn up. Pliks.

Senna

HighLine wrote: »

Definitely not OK. It's never good to leave someone on their own and switch to another slot. Of course, if you gave him a call and explained the situation then that would be grand.

Haven't done it but was contemplating it a few weeks ago, no one had his number, and if it had of been 2x 3ball after our tee time it would have been fine. Thankfully 2 other people joined very late the night before. Meant to say it to the player next morning too but forgot during the round.

BigChap1759

Senna wrote: »

How about if a 2 ball are on the time sheet for 9am, but there 2x 3 balls out at 8.40 and 8.30. Preferring to play in a 4 ball as the time sheet is very full, is it OK the night before to move your name, hopping that the other player will also join the other 3 ball.

Assuming I have no way to contact the other player in advance.

I'd say it would be pretty selfish to leave a lad on his own just because you'd fancy playing in a 4 ball - I wouldn't be happy

Wichita Lineman

Barring an unavoidable emergency you should never leave someone on their own. Poor form.

Mantis Toboggan

In my club you cannot make changes to the time sheet after Thursday night. You need to ring the club house to make a change. Makes people less likely to try pull a fast one.

Copper_pipe

Im hoping to get a round in at the weekend but I see theres a competition on.
"OPEN TEAM OF 4
2 SCORES TO COUNT AT EACH HOLE
MIXED TEAMS AND VISITORS ALL WELCOME"

I only joined the club during the week so I wouldnt really know anyone and I dont have a handicap either.

Do ye think it would be ok If I put my name down in the timesheet for tomorrow on my own ? Theres a lot of free spots for tomorrow.

PARlance

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Im hoping to get a round in at the weekend but I see theres a competition on.
"OPEN TEAM OF 4
2 SCORES TO COUNT AT EACH HOLE
MIXED TEAMS AND VISITORS ALL WELCOME"

I only joined the club during the week so I wouldnt really know anyone and I dont have a handicap either.

Do ye think it would be ok If I put my name down in the timesheet for tomorrow on my own ? Theres a lot of free spots for tomorrow.

It's probably a rare instance when you shouldn't stick your name down CP, due to the nature of the (team) event. The teams might be trying to get someone to play at present. If you jump in it could ruffle a few feathers.

What you could do is ring the club and they will give you the number for those that booked. Call and see if they think they'll fill their team.
If it was me, I would probably just head to the club in the morning at a time when there's slots free and ask a few groups as they are heading out. If they're a 2 or 3 ball at that stage then you won't be taking someone's place.

Jawgap

IMO, its not the pulling out or changing time slot that's d1ckish, it's not apologising and/or explaining to the partner you've potentially left in the lurch that makes it bad form.

BigChap1759

PARlance wrote: »

It's probably a rare instance when you shouldn't stick your name down CP, due to the nature of the (team) event. The teams might be trying to get someone to play at present. If you jump in it could ruffle a few feathers.

What you could do is ring the club and they will give you the number for those that booked. Call and see if they think they'll fill their team.
If it was me, I would probably just head to the club in the morning at a time when there's slots free and ask a few groups as they are heading out. If they're a 2 or 3 ball at that stage then you won't be taking someone's place.

I would probably disagree with this but depends what system the club are using - on brs you can just enter guest to fill the spot so others can't join(in the event that they're looking for another friend/guest to join).

IMO if there's a spot free on a team it's fair game to join it

G1032

A few years back there was a kind of Junior Scratch Cup organised for club members only. There wasn't many playing (14 or so people in think) so we were left to decide our own tee times. It was just a case of getting the 36 holes played in the day.

I had my name down with one of the other competitors for the 2nd round and we were the last two out. He never showed for the 2nd round and as a consequence I had no opposite with which to play the 2nd 18.

I later found out that he played poorly in the opening 18 so just headed off home because he had no chance of winning. Nice, eh?

HighLine

G1032 wrote: »

A few years back there was a kind of Junior Scratch Cup organised for club members only. There wasn't many playing (14 or so people in think) so we were left to decide our own tee times. It was just a case of getting the 36 holes played in the day.

I had my name down with one of the other competitors for the 2nd round and we were the last two out. He never showed for the 2nd round and as a consequence I had no opposite with which to play the 2nd 18.

I later found out that he played poorly in the opening 18 so just headed off home because he had no chance of winning. Nice, eh?

That should lead to a suspension IMO.

G1032

HighLine wrote: »

That should lead to a suspension IMO.

I agree. It should have. I was absolutely fuppin raging. I reported it to a couple of committee members and said no more about it. Nothing was ever done / said to him as far as I know.

Copper_pipe

BigChap1759 wrote: »

I would probably disagree with this but depends what system the club are using - on brs you can just enter guest to fill the spot so others can't join(in the event that they're looking for another friend/guest to join).

IMO if there's a spot free on a team it's fair game to join it

Can see here in BRS there's a 2 ball on the time sheet in that team of 4 competition.

It's fair game for me so to put my name in beside them even though I've no handicap and it will count as one of my marked rounds to get my handicap?

Armchair Andy

G1032 wrote:

I agree. It should have. I was absolutely fuppin raging. I reported it to a couple of committee members and said no more about it. Nothing was ever done / said to him as far as I know.

Rare that anything is ever done, just to avoid confrontation. Anyone ever heard of actions taken? I know I haven't.

joxer1988

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Can see here in BRS there's a 2 ball on the time sheet in that team of 4 competition.

It's fair game for me so to put my name in beside them even though I've no handicap and it will count as one of my marked rounds to get my handicap?

Nah, I wouldn't do that... They'd be looking for people who can actually contribute to the team's score on the day.

Dayor Knight

Wouldn't be inclined to do it myself. If I'm first on the sheet and others join me at that time, I'd feel honour bound to play at the time I had nominated in the first place.
And if my moving slot left one person on their own, definitely not - that's just bad form, unless there's some good reason and you let the person know.
When you make a commitment stick to it. If you can't, offer your apologies and let the affected parties know. Otherwise you may be messing up other player's options to play on the day.

golfer555

A little scenario your name is down but the weathers turned for the worst and the forecast is now predicting heavy rain all day, happens quite a bit in Ireland! Would you feel guilty taking your name off the sheet late the night before a 8am tee time?

Personally I would show up but say at the start I'll play 9 holes then head in. Happy medium as in getting out to play a few holes and keeping the playing partner happy however playing golf in heavy rain is pretty miserable and generally a waste of time unless your preparing for something big.

BigChap1759

golfer555 wrote: »

A little scenario your name is down but the weathers turned for the worst and the forecast is now predicting heavy rain all day, happens quite a bit in Ireland! Would you feel guilty taking your name off the sheet late the night before a 8am tee time?

Personally I would show up but say at the start I'll play 9 holes then head in. Happy medium as in getting out to play a few holes and keeping the playing partner happy however playing golf in heavy rain is pretty miserable and generally a waste of time unless your preparing for something big.

To be honest if the weather is awful I usually expect to just pair up with other like minded souls - maybe I'm just used to it as there are so many pull outs if its forecast to pour all day

callaway92

When I'm going for a game with my Dad the last thing I want is a random person (good golfer, nice person etc. irrelevant) joining us to be honest. Don't want to make small talk with a person I don't know.

It happened once or twice before where I'd be paying green fees on another course and a member would put their name down to play with us and then would be unbearably slow with an awkward personality. I said to myself to not let that happen again. Never know when my last game with him will be, so I don't want another person annoying me in it, as ignorant as it may be.

HighLine

callaway92 wrote: »

When I'm going for a game with my Dad the last thing I want is a random person (good golfer, nice person etc. irrelevant) joining us to be honest. Don't want to make small talk with a person I don't know.

It happened once or twice before where I'd be paying green fees on another course and a member would put their name down to play with us and then would be unbearably slow with an awkward personality. I said to myself to not let that happen again. Never know when my last game with him will be, so I don't want another person annoying me in it, as ignorant as it may be.

Well then go buy some land, construct a golf course and play away to your heart's content on it.

In the meantime, you're playing on a public course... which invariably means that you might have to actually play with other members of the public.

Dayor Knight

callaway92 wrote: »

When I'm going for a game with my Dad the last thing I want is a random person (good golfer, nice person etc. irrelevant) joining us to be honest. Don't want to make small talk with a person I don't know.

It happened once or twice before where I'd be paying green fees on another course and a member would put their name down to play with us and then would be unbearably slow with an awkward personality. I said to myself to not let that happen again. Never know when my last game with him will be, so I don't want another person annoying me in it, as ignorant as it may be.

That's totally ok, i.m.o., unless it's an open or club competition, in which case you have to accept that others may join you. If it's a green fee or non competition club time you should be well entitled to head out for a game with your dad without company. And you're right to enjoy the time with your dad while you can.

BigChap1759

callaway92 wrote: »

When I'm going for a game with my Dad the last thing I want is a random person (good golfer, nice person etc. irrelevant) joining us to be honest. Don't want to make small talk with a person I don't know.

It happened once or twice before where I'd be paying green fees on another course and a member would put their name down to play with us and then would be unbearably slow with an awkward personality. I said to myself to not let that happen again. Never know when my last game with him will be, so I don't want another person annoying me in it, as ignorant as it may be.

You sound very unlucky - think in general the discussion was around club comps

Senna

If it's not a comp and two people, just say, we have a singles matchplay game that has to be played today. Then there's no hard feeling.
But if there's a comp on, it's anyone and everyone welcome.

callaway92

Ah ya sorry, I should've clarified that it's green fees 99% of the time.

Copper_pipe

Playing in a 4 ball in the morning. Open singles. What's the story with marking scorecard because I've no handicap?

Sorry for all the noobish questions

Kingswood Rover

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Playing in a 4 ball in the morning. Open singles. What's the story with marking scorecard because I've no handicap?

Sorry for all the noobish questions

nah bother one of the other guys can mark 2 cards.

Jawgap

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Playing in a 4 ball in the morning. Open singles. What's the story with marking scorecard because I've no handicap?

Sorry for all the noobish questions

Kingswood Rover wrote: »

nah bother one of the other guys can mark 2 cards.

Somebody may be along to correct me on this, but you don't have to have a handicap to mark the card, as far as I know a marker doesn't have to be a competitor.

Saying that, if there's any doubt one person can mark 2 cards as described above.

Rikand

golfer555 wrote: »

A little scenario your name is down but the weathers turned for the worst and the forecast is now predicting heavy rain all day, happens quite a bit in Ireland! Would you feel guilty taking your name off the sheet late the night before a 8am tee time?

Personally I would show up but say at the start I'll play 9 holes then head in. Happy medium as in getting out to play a few holes and keeping the playing partner happy however playing golf in heavy rain is pretty miserable and generally a waste of time unless your preparing for something big.

I'd feel very guilty and would show up on the morning of and see what my playing partner wants to do. If they decide no golf, then great. But once it's a mutually reached decision.

But if he says he's only going to play 9 holes I'd respectfully ask him if I could try play with someone else as I'd prefer to play 18 or none at all

Boskowski

I assume the other three have a handicap so in that case they would just do their own thing for the purpose of the competition as if you weren't there. Most clubs will let you play along with them no problem (although some may not, its a reduced green fee based on players being GUI members) and one of them can mark a card for you but you cannot mark anyone's card. You can't mark a card as you have no handicap yourself. You could mark someones card if you had a handicap regardless whether you play in the comp or not.

Edit: Sorry shouldn't facilitate off-toping.

Boskowski

Jawgap wrote: »

Somebody may be along to correct me on this, but you don't have to have a handicap to mark the card, as far as I know a marker doesn't have to be a competitor.

Saying that, if there's any doubt one person can mark 2 cards as described above.

Or they could just rotate them around. The non handicap player doesn't really come into it and since it means nothing that player that could just mark their own card anyway if they actually wanted a card that is.

Led1

Arranged to play in 4ball with 3 fellow members on a Wednesday morning at 9am and one of the players booked it on the Timesheet to confirm.

Turned up to play on the Wednesday morning and the other 3 didn't turn up but instead played on the following Friday with a different player and left me completely in the lurch. What would the Committees view on this Shenanigans be in general? TKS

Motivator

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118587124#Comment_118587124

committees are afraid of their lives to tackle people for this kind of thing. During the summer I had 2 guys put their name in opposite me and a buddy in a fourball with a 6.20 pm tee time. The night before they took their names off, then put them back in the following morning and at 6pm they took their names off again and never showed. I went ballistic as there was no time to get two others opposite us. We brought it up with the competition secretary so wanted to ban them for a weeks competition play (not their first time doing this to other people). When it was raised at a committee meeting the following week it was glossed over and nothing was done.

I had it out with one of them a few weeks later and he more or less told me to go and get fûcked.