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Worst car that will be taken for Scrappage

  • 29-06-2016 10:31am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭


    Hi All

    I have a 02 BMW 320D Estate. Tax & NCT ran out at the end of May. I've still been driving it away while I get something sorted. (I was thinking of getting a 162.)

    I was never going to put it through the NCT as it would need too much to pass it. But now yesterday, the clutch went so it's not even driving.

    So NCT out a month and I would have to litteraly tow it in to the dealers.... Would I get any of the scrappage offers (Like Nissan's €4k) with that....?

    Just want to know before I let it off for €100 for scrap.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭GrumpyMe


    In my opinion and FWIW - these scrappage deals are bunkum!

    Along the lines of
    Scrappage = €4,000 WOW!
    Price of vehicle = €30,000
    You end up paying = €26,000

    Cash Price if I walked in off the street... = +/- €26,000

    They, the scrappage offers, are definitely not a charter for Joe Public to "get one over" on the dealers! Like, woo hoo I got €4k for my heap of junk that was worth only €100.
    You may be just as well off selling for the €100 and haggling the best cash price!
    BTW I'd put the 0% finance in with scrappage offers - the interest is already included in the overall price you pay for the vehicle! If you went in with cash (or bank draft or credit union cheque) the overall price of the vehicle would be much lower!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,528 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    +1 to the above. They are total nonsense and masking over the fact that you'd get a hefty straight deal cash discount anyway. You're still getting buttons for your heap of scrap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Anytime I hear an ad that says "up to €4000 scrappage" I always imagine if you went in with a car worth 1k you'd only get 1k but if you went in with a car worth 5k you'd only get 4k because of those lovely words "up to" at least Nissan promised a guaranteed 4k in the run up to 161.

    This too shall pass.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,102 ✭✭✭✭Drummerboy08


    GrumpyMe wrote: »
    In my opinion and FWIW - these scrappage deals are bunkum!

    Along the lines of
    Scrappage = €4,000 WOW!
    Price of vehicle = €30,000
    You end up paying = €26,000

    Cash Price if I walked in off the street... = +/- €26,000

    They, the scrappage offers, are definitely not a charter for Joe Public to "get one over" on the dealers! Like, woo hoo I got €4k for my heap of junk that was worth only €100.
    You may be just as well off selling for the €100 and haggling the best cash price!
    BTW I'd put the 0% finance in with scrappage offers - the interest is already included in the overall price you pay for the vehicle! If you went in with cash (or bank draft or credit union cheque) the overall price of the vehicle would be much lower!

    Scrappage and 0% is paid for by the manufacturer not the dealer, so no. You wouldn't get the cost of either if you went in with cash.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭BnB


    OP Here - I don't want to sound snarky, but we've had the whole Scrappage debate before. And I'm on the fence with it myself as to how much of a bargain you are actually getting.

    But what I really want to know here is, would my 14 year old, one month out NCT, clutchless piece of crap qualify for these "offers".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,483 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It varies depending on the scrappage deal being offered. Ask a few dealers of different brands.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Before towing it anywhere, ring a few local places that have the deal and see what they say.
    They might not be very interested in having a car sitting outside that won't even drive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,546 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    GrumpyMe wrote: »
    In my opinion and FWIW - these scrappage deals are bunkum!

    Along the lines of
    Scrappage = €4,000 WOW!
    Price of vehicle = €30,000
    You end up paying = €26,000

    Cash Price if I walked in off the street... = +/- €26,000

    They, the scrappage offers, are definitely not a charter for Joe Public to "get one over" on the dealers! Like, woo hoo I got €4k for my heap of junk that was worth only €100.
    You may be just as well off selling for the €100 and haggling the best cash price!
    BTW I'd put the 0% finance in with scrappage offers - the interest is already included in the overall price you pay for the vehicle! If you went in with cash (or bank draft or credit union cheque) the overall price of the vehicle would be much lower!
    In both cases you're way off.

    OP, check the terms of each scrappage offer as they're all slightly different. Some need a valid nct, some need to be in your name for a certain amount of time, some need to have been insured in your name.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,267 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    BnB wrote: »
    OP Here - I don't want to sound snarky, but we've had the whole Scrappage debate before. And I'm on the fence with it myself as to how much of a bargain you are actually getting.

    But what I really want to know here is, would my 14 year old, one month out NCT, clutchless piece of crap qualify for these "offers".

    Just from personal experience recently and checking with Ford and VW, both wanted in date tax/NCT and for the car not to be over 10 years old.

    Your best bet as ghas been pointed out, is to ring around the dealers and see what the T's & C's are.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭BnB


    OP again. I rang one dealer (Nissan) RE their €4k offer.

    He told me that the car would have to have been taxed & nct'ed "recently". I told him about mine (including the clutch being gone) and he said that he would be able to give me most of the €4k for it. It sounded to me like, Nissan were funding a part of it (lets say €3k for example) and then it was up to the dealer to get as much as they can for the car after that.

    However, one thing to note, they have two seperate offers - €4k scrappage and 4% APR on PCP and you can't use both of them together.

    i.e. If I take the scrappage and use it as a part of the deposit on a PCP deal, I won't get the 4% APR. I'll be paying a higher rate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 smoke_mirrors


    Garage gave me 1.5k scrapage on my old car worth €300. and they said i could keep it as they didnt want it.

    although they probably would have given me the same price either way without scrappage. its just to make it out that you're getting a good deal or getting money off the car when really you're not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,546 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    You bought a new Civic smoke_mirrors? I'd say €1500 discount is easily got on them without a trade in. That wouldn't be classed as a scrappage deal really.
    Most manufacturers doing scrappage are giving €3-4K off.


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