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Assault by Teens

  • 28-06-2016 3:16pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,972 ✭✭✭


    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/teens-appalling-assault-on-victims-left-them-with-skull-fractures-broken-eye-sockets-and-broken-cheek-bones-34841022.html
    The attacks by Niall Brooks (18) and two others left the victims with extensive injuries, including skull fractures, broken eye sockets and broken cheek bones.
    Brooks of The Rise, Kiltipper Gate, Tallaght, Dublin pleaded guilty at Dublin Circuit Criminal Court to two counts of assault causing harm to Brendan Cahill and Derek McDonald at the Luas terminal on Belgard Square East on March 17, 2015.
    I searched for more information and the below popped up which I assumed was the same case but nope.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/attack-man-tallaght-depressing-2497954-Dec2015/
    Judge Martin Nolan said anyone who viewed the CCTV footage could not fail to be depressed at the sheer violence of the robbery which had been carried out for a very small profit.
    He said it was lucky for everyone that Mr Goromonzi had not sustained far more serious injuries.
    Judge Nolan said the pair deserved some form of punishment but the overriding concern in sentencing young people was to try to reform them.
    He noted both accused had similar difficulties in their background with the principal difference being that Brooks did not have any history of convictions.
    Aaron Eccles (18) and Niall Brooks (18) were described by their victim, Charles Goromonzi (57), as “evil”.
    CCTV footage of the robbery shown in court depicted Mr Goromonzi walking alone at 9.30pm before being randomly set upon by Brooks, Eccles and a third man.
    Eccles, of Brookview Close, and Brooks, of The Rise, Kiltipper Gate, Tallaght, Dublin, pleaded guilty to robbery of a Nokia Lumina 625 phone at Sundale Heights, Tallaght on 29 July, 2014.
    The kicks to the victim were mostly to his head. He was also held on the ground by the pair with his arms outstretched.

    Not sure that reform is working. Why isn't the safety of the public the overriding concern?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭gumbo1


    Because this Judge Nolan is incompetent. Every time the name is associated with a case it's always in favour of the perpetrators of the crime!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Smashed eye sockets and smashed cheek bones .
    Probably get probation or a suspended sentence.

    Justice Irish style


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭omahaid


    Eccles has 29 previous convictions which include three for assault causing harm and one for animal cruelty which involved over-working a pony.

    I wonder how the rehabilitation is going?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭A_Sober_Paddy


    People who carry out these attacks should be hanged in public


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,218 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Only my two cents...
    But I think the reason for all these slap on the wrists sentencing is because the Irish prison system just can't handle it. Probably the same in other countries.

    By that I mean judges play the system. They sentence some, slap others. Prisons are like a merry go round perhaps. Constantly throwing people on and off it while always at full capacity.

    All I can think off with these weird sentences.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 990 ✭✭✭Ted111


    Judge Nolan said the pair deserved some form of punishment but the overriding concern in sentencing young people was to try to reform them.


    Perhaps Martin Nolan should have become a social worker after he left the guards.

    There again you don't get €250K salary in that line of work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Vast majority of people in Dublin are A1. But I'm not sure that is what Mr. Goromonzi is meditating on right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 974 ✭✭✭jme2010


    Serious question, as a punishment and compensation to the victim What about garnishing their dole money?

    €50 quid off them each week for the victim for x amount of years. Probably last for life seems the scum will never better themselves or contribute to society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭NoCrackHaving


    The problem is wholesale within the justice system. Prisons are massively overcrowded and judges know this.

    If you want to stop this sort of thing happening fresh prisons need to be built - a huge capital investment in order to protect the public from individuals such as those mentioned.

    However we also need proper rehabilitation of prisoners so when they are released the majority do not re offend. This isn't impossible, other countries do it - the Netherlands has closed prisons due to declining levels of crime.

    However the sums involved mean that this won't happen and the same roundabout justice system will continue, helping no one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,709 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Mod:

    The case is still before the courts and cannot yet be discussed.


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