Closed down garage

savagethegoat

Passed a derelict garage yesterday displaying Petrol 1.49 and diesel 1.39. We petrolheads aren't doing so bad are we!

vandriver

. I can beat you!

TherapyBoy

My little fuel app on the phone tells me I paid €1.67 a litre in November 2012. We're doing just fine!

The Sidewards Man

We're still get raped.

clogher71

Was in Lanzarote last week. Diesel 85.9 and 92.9 for the higher grade.

shietpilot

I remember petrol being at €1.62 at one point

Dord

Looking at spritmonitor, 1.17/L - 1.66/L is the range I've paid. The lower one wasn't too long ago!

aido79

It baffles me how some people in Ireland think fuel prices are acceptable when over 60% of it is taxes. So if it takes 70 euro to fill a car then around 45 euro is taxes which adds up to alot of money over the course of the year.
I live in Australia where I pay the equivalent of around 80 euro cents a litre.
I'm amazed that people took to the streets over water charges but nobody kicks up a fuss about fuel prices when the government is obviously screwing people with them.
Too many penny smart pound foolish people in the country.

The Bishop Basher

The Sidewards Man wrote: »

We're still get raped.

For sure...

Taxed when buying a car
Tax when importing a car
Tax on servicing and parts for your car
Tax for using your car
Tax on fuel you put in your car
Charged for using bridges / roads
Levy on insurance

etc etc etc etc etc etc....

And some people think we're doing just fine...

neris

aido79 wrote: »

It baffles me how some people in Ireland think fuel prices are acceptable when over 60% of it is taxes. So if it takes 70 euro to fill a car then around 45 euro is taxes which adds up to alot of money over the course of the year.
I live in Australia where I pay the equivalent of around 80 euro cents a litre.
I'm amazed that people took to the streets over water charges but nobody kicks up a fuss about fuel prices when the government is obviously screwing people with them.
Too many penny smart pound foolish people in the country.

because they see the government taking a lump sum off them for something they had for free for years but dont see that they probably pay more in fuel tax per year then the standing water charges would be. Im more surprised the bus and haulage industry havent been kicking up more of a fuss over it

aido79

neris wrote: »

because they see the government taking a lump sum off them for something they had for free for years but dont see that they probably pay more in fuel tax per year then the standing water charges would be. Im more surprised the bus and haulage industry havent been kicking up more of a fuss over it

As I said too many penny smart pound foolish people. I think the average person in Ireland pays around 1600 euro in taxes on fuel for their car. Some people who drive alot would obviously pay more.

aido79

Swanner wrote: »

For sure...

Taxed when buying a car
Tax when importing a car
Tax on servicing and parts for your car
Tax for using your car
Tax on fuel you put in your car
Charged for using bridges / roads
Levy on insurance

etc etc etc etc etc etc....

And some people think we're doing just fine...

The cost of running a car is a huge barrier for some people when it comes to looking for a job or a place to live. They may be unable to take a job because they can't get to the place of work because they can't afford the cost of running a car or they may be paying higher rent for the convenience of living near public transport for the same reason. It's an issue that seems to go under the radar but affects a lot of people.

Dord

Details of the breakdown on the taxes on AA's website.

http://www.theaa.ie/aa/motoring-advice/petrol-prices.aspx

savagethegoat

aido79 wrote: »

It baffles me how some people in Ireland think fuel prices are acceptable when over 60% of it is taxes. So if it takes 70 euro to fill a car then around 45 euro is taxes which adds up to alot of money over the course of the year.
I live in Australia where I pay the equivalent of around 80 euro cents a litre.
I'm amazed that people took to the streets over water charges but nobody kicks up a fuss about fuel prices when the government is obviously screwing people with them.
Too many penny smart pound foolish people in the country.

It baffles me when people think that the tax take just disappears into thin air and seem to think that tax should be slashed but not increased in some other area.
It's a Governments job to determine what tax they (actually we) need and what areas it should be raised from.

MarkAnthony

The Sidewards Man wrote: »

We're still get raped.

I'd avoid that petrol station in future.

mikeecho

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mikeecho

vandriver wrote: »

. I can beat you!

Knowing Topaz, .. that pic was probably taken yesterday

firestarter51

just been to the uk £1.22 was the average on petrol and £1.11 for the diesel

vandriver

firestarter51 wrote: »

just been to the uk £1.22 was the average on petrol and £1.11 for the diesel

I thought diesel was pricier than petrol in the UK?

firestarter51

vandriver wrote: »

I thought diesel was pricier than petrol in the UK?

Nope
More expensive than here though

savagethegoat

firestarter51 wrote: »

just been to the uk £1.22 was the average on petrol and £1.11 for the diesel

UK Petrol Prices for Monday 20th June 2016




AVG MIN

Unleaded 111.72 105.90
Diesel 111.98 105.90
Super Unleaded 121.57 112.90
Premium Diesel 124.67 114.90


you were robbed. I was just over and usually paid about 1.11 for petrol

firestarter51

savagethegoat wrote: »

UK Petrol Prices for Monday 20th June 2016




AVG MIN

Unleaded 111.72 105.90
Diesel 111.98 105.90
Super Unleaded 121.57 112.90
Premium Diesel 124.67 114.90

I always go for super myself

aido79

savagethegoat wrote: »

It baffles me when people think that the tax take just disappears into thin air and seem to think that tax should be slashed but not increased in some other area.
It's a Governments job to determine what tax they (actually we) need and what areas it should be raised from.

I don't see how you got that from my post. I don't think the tax disappears into thin air. I just think there are some areas where taxes could be fairer.
The government are being hindered in doing their job properly because there seems to be an ever rising number of whingers and begrudgers in the country who seem to want to dictate where the government raise their revenue from.

This is way off topic so going to leave it there.

firestarter51

aido79 wrote: »

I don't see how you got that from my post. I don't think the tax disappears into thin air. I just think there are some areas where taxes could be fairer.
The government are being hindered in doing their job properly because there seems to be an ever rising number of whingers and begrudgers in the country who seem to want to dictate where the government raise their revenue from.

This is way off topic so going to leave it there.

How could it be fairer ?
Fuel is a consumer product we need
Money is something the government need
They tax it - simples
How else do you propose that get the same revenue
Tax is a bxxxh but something we have to suffer



Back on topic what do people think about topaz fuel ?
I had a 2010 diesel car and it failed the nct due to emissions I was advised by the mechanic to change fuel filter and add dipatine and use topaz in future
Any thoughts would be appreciated

CiniO

mikeecho wrote: »

Knowing Topaz, .. that pic was probably taken yesterday

Still looks good comparing to this:

jca

I was in a nearby village where the shop had closed down, 106.9 petrol and 88.9 diesel was still on the pumps. They were the old type pumps that 1 scratched on the face as they never envisaged fuel prices exceeding the €1 per litre!!

aido79

firestarter51 wrote: »

How could it be fairer ?
Fuel is a consumer product we need
Money is something the government need
They tax it - simples
How else do you propose that get the same revenue
Tax is a bxxxh but something we have to suffer



Back on topic what do people think about topaz fuel ?
I had a 2010 diesel car and it failed the nct due to emissions I was advised by the mechanic to change fuel filter and add dipatine and use topaz in future
Any thoughts would be appreciated

Do you really think taxing a basic requirement for a large part of the population at 64% is fair?

I have nothing against paying tax as it needed to run the country but I think it's a shame that the same people keep getting drained by badly thought up systems.

firestarter51

aido79 wrote: »

Do you really think taxing a basic requirement for a large part of the population at 64% is fair?

I have nothing against paying tax as it needed to run the country but I think it's a shame that the same people keep getting drained by badly thought up systems.

I don't think it's fair but what can we do about it
The money had to be made from somewhere and it's not going to change
If it was up to me I would make cigarettes €25 a pack and drop fuel prices (ex smoker) but that will never happen


Just thinking about the price of fuel when I first started driving 39 pence a litre in the U.K. 20 years ago

aido79

firestarter51 wrote: »

I don't think it's fair but what can we do about it
The money had to be made from somewhere and it's not going to change
If it was up to me I would make cigarettes €25 a pack and drop fuel prices (ex smoker) but that will never happen


Just thinking about the price of fuel when I first started driving 39 pence a litre in the U.K. 20 years ago

My original point was that I was baffled by the uproar over water charges but very little is done about fuel prices.
Water charges would cost the average household hundreds of euro a year even without a cap in place but fuel costs the average households multiples of that.

firestarter51

aido79 wrote: »

My original point was that I was baffled by the uproar over water charges but very little is done about fuel prices.
Water charges would cost the average household hundreds of euro a year even without a cap in place but fuel costs the average households multiples of that.

Was that your point
I missed that lol
The Irish and English always roll over when it comes to tax, unlike the French who kick up and close down the whole country with a strike and blockades
But this is off topic really

The Sidewards Man

Should the hauliers start throwing toys out of the pram maybe?

firestarter51

The Sidewards Man wrote: »

Should the hauliers start throwing toys out of the pram maybe?

That won't happen
There doesn't seems to be any solidarity or balls here with Lorry drivers
The French protest properly and get what they want
We just agree and carry on

It's not just fuel cost for haulage companies they also have toll charges
This should be free for haulage companies imo
Penalise a Lorry driver for using a motorway and avoiding local towns is crazy

The Sidewards Man

We just keep applying the ky jelly and telling ourself like in the op that it's grand.