Oireachtas TV

sligojoek

Does anybody know what happened to Oireachtas TV? I had it a few weeks ago but now I'm only getting a test card saying "Tastail Innealtoreachta 2rn" My Gaelge is a bit rusty.

The Cush

Threads here, no further updates
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057292971&page=5
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=99636953

Tástáil Innealtóireachta 2rn = 2rn Engineering Test

sligojoek

Nice one. Thanks

Atlantic Dawn

More testing than the Apollo program in the 60's, it's years been tested for a simple few hours a day channel. If only the local councils could adapt the same amount of time to the rubbish planning they have in each and every town in the country.

Sam Russell

The politicos do not like RTE and are refusing to pay RTE (2RN) despite the laws they passed make it that RTE (2RN) cannot give it to them for free - they have to charge the transmission fees according to the bandwidth used. However, they are quite happy to pay Sky €250k per year to put behind a pay wall.

sligojoek

It's like an episode of Yes Minister.

The Cush

There is a proposal from RTÉ to carry the channel on Saorview, posted by Elmo here but no further information on this since.

It appeared to have been sorted according to press release in mid Jan - http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/mediazone/pressreleases/2016/name-31310-en.html. The election and acting Government/Minister since then didn't help the situation in my opinion.

mackersdublin

Title has just re-appeared on 22 - Tithe an Oireachtas with EPG data Programmes Return Monday at 9.00 and with the 2rn test card replaced with the Oireachtas TV logo

Hopefully it's full time from Monday and not another pilot transmission

Sam Russell

mackersdublin wrote: »

Title has just re-appeared on 22 - Tithe an Oireachtas with EPG data Programmes Return Monday at 9.00 and with the 2rn test card replaced with the Oireachtas TV logo

Hopefully it's full time from Monday and not another pilot transmission

Just in time for the holidays.

StreetLight

mackersdublin wrote: »

Title has just re-appeared on 22 - Tithe an Oireachtas with EPG data Programmes Return Monday at 9.00 and with the 2rn test card replaced with the Oireachtas TV logo

Hopefully it's full time from Monday and not another pilot transmission

It might only be to cover the recall of the Dáil to discuss Brexit.

The Cush

mackersdublin wrote: »

Hopefully it's full time from Monday and not another pilot transmission

StreetLight wrote: »

It might only be to cover the recall of the Dáil to discuss Brexit.

Looks a bit more positive this time, channel name with a 5 day schedule of sorts (weekdays only it appears) and the MHEG generated off-air caption/slate has changed from 2rn to Oireachtas TV.

mackersdublin

The Cush wrote: »

Looks a bit more positive this time, channel name with a 5 day schedule of sorts (weekdays only it appears) and the MHEG generated off-air caption/slate has changed from 2rn to Oireachtas TV.

Both Saorview and Oireachtas tweeted earlier today about its availability
https://twitter.com/SAORVIEW/status/747350704302395393
https://twitter.com/OireachtasNews/status/747364213933355008
Also their website now mentions Saorview at the top of TV providers carrying Oireachtas TV
http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/watchlisten/watchoireachtastv/
http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/watchlisten/watchoireachtastv/faqs/

Title is stil "Tithe an Oireachtas" rather than "Oireachtas TV" which was used before on Saorview when it was broadcasting on a pilot basis

The Cush

mackersdublin wrote: »

Title is stil "Tithe an Oireachtas" rather than "Oireachtas TV" which was used before on Saorview when it was broadcasting on a pilot basis

The difference in channels names could be due to the fact that Saorview aren't carrying the full Oireachtas TV channel schedule, mostly live coverage from the Oireachtas during weekdays only as per their proposal last year, Sat/Sun schedule isn't included - http://cce.gno.ie/news/2016/03/rteproposal.pdf

Now showing a channel ID in the EPG on my Sony TV. Called "Tithe an Oireachtais".

The Cush

Deleted User wrote: »

Now showing a channel ID in the EPG on my Sony TV. Called "Tithe an Oireachtais".

It's been there since the channel launched a few weeks ago, a rescan on that day replaced the Oireachtas TV channel name.

The Cush

Just an update on this, the recently published minutes of the first meeting of the new Houses Commission on July 14th last reports that they gave approval for the signing of a contract with RTÉ to allow Oireachtas TV to be broadcast on the Saorview. No details of the contract was given.

COMMUNICATIONS AND BROADCASTING

The Commission granted approval for the signing of a contract with RTÉ to allow Oireachtas TV to be broadcast on the Saorview multiplex platform.

The Commission noted that access to the Saorview platform would significantly extend broadcast coverage of Oireachtas TV giving more than 98% coverage nationwide for the proceedings of the Houses and their Committees.

The Commission, in welcoming the development, asked that specific emphasis on promoting Oireachtas TV, such as advertising via traditional and social media, be included in the forthcoming Commission’s Communications Strategy in order to increase awareness of the availability of the channel among the wider public.

http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/commission/min14072016.pdf

Carawaystick

Would the contract not be signed with 2rn, instead of rté?

The Cush

Carawaystick wrote: »

Would the contract not be signed with 2rn, instead of rté?

RTE is the multiplex contractor for all channels on Saorview, they in turn have a transmission contract with 2rn.

Sam Russell

It is obvious that the Oireachtas does not like RTE.

The Cush

The Dept of Communication has published documents relating to RTÉ's proposal to launch the Oireachtas channel on Saorview. Ministerial approval was given on Jun 17th last.

http://www.dccae.gov.ie/communications/en-ie/broadcasting-media/Pages/Consents-for-New-Services.aspx

Elmo

@The Cush when did they update their site? I only noticed it yesterday.

The Cush

Elmo wrote: »

@The Cush when did they update their site? I only noticed it yesterday.

Don't know, only followed your link.

Stillhouette

I already have that channel on Saorview. Why is it launching again?

The Cush

Stillhouette wrote: »

Why is it launching again?

It isn't, just a discussion on the Dept of Communication's documents which were published on their website in recent times.

Sam Russell

It is just a publication of the agreement between the Oireachtas and RTE, but not the details. If a straightforward deal had been done, the cost of transmission would have gone into the pot for 2RN and would have resulted in a reduction of costs for the other users of Saorview.

The also have heavily emphasised that RTE cannot do any advertising on the channel, which is strange because the channel is an Oireachtas channel, which they pay have been paying Sky €250 k/year to broadcast on satellite, encrypted, for some time.

The whole thing smells - and not of roses.

The Cush

In the Order of Business debate in the Seanad on Thursday a couple of Senators criticised RTÉ for their decision to outsource children's programming and the failure of 3 RTÉ Executive Board members who attended a Joint Committee on Communications meeting on Public Service Broadcasting on Tuesday last, including new DG Dee Forbes, to mention the decision during the committee debate.

One Senator in the Seanad debate also made reference to something Dee Forbes said during the committee discussion "an oblique reference to RTE's coverage of the Dáil and Seanad" including Oireachtas Report being moved over to digital streaming.

Senator Kevin Humphreys: [...]
We also had an oblique reference to RTE's coverage of the Dáil and Seanad. We are giving it €180 million and it has a remit for public service broadcasting. I know it has very small viewing figures, but RTE gets €180 million to cover politics and the arts. At the committee meeting, the director general said one of her journalists was discussing moving coverage of this House, committees and the Dáil to the digital platform. Yesterday, I was critical of Deputy Dooley. However, he was the only one awake at the committee and picked up on it. That is clearly what was referred to at the committee. We are giving RTE €180 million to cover the arts and politics, and the new director general is talking about moving the coverage to the digital stream and using a journalist to quietly lobby for support around the House, and is meeting journalists on a regular basis.

Ministers are putting off decisions on the funding of public service broadcasting. We had a do-nothing Dáil and we now have a do-nothing Minister in this area. There are serious questions to be asked as to how RTE will nurture future broadcasting talent and over its oblique reference at the committee to how it will cover politics.

http://oireachtasdebates.oireachtas.ie/debates%20authoring/debateswebpack.nsf/takes/seanad2016112400002?opendocument#G00600

RTÉ later that evening issued a statement on Oireachtas coverage

In a statement tonight, RTÉ said it remains "committed to providing coverage of the Oireachtas as a key element of our public service remit.

"As part of ongoing reviews of our services, we are currently looking at the best ways of providing television and online coverage of the important work of the Oireachtas to the widest possible audience, particularly in the context of changing patterns of media consumption in Ireland."

https://www.rte.ie/news/2016/1124/834206-rte-young-peoples-programming/

Although not mentioned directly Dee Forbes reference to other digital environments (Committee playback 2:25:20) could be to the planned Saorview Connect hybrid service and making available the Oireachtas streams as virtual channels. A similar reference was made in RTÉ's Proposal document to the Dept of Communications on launching the Oireachtas TV channel on Saorview back in Feb 2005, which I posted about earlier this year. This wouldn't directly affect RTÉ coverage of the Oireachtas or Oireachtas Report. A good plan in my opinion but something the members of the Oireachtas are not aware of it appears resulting in them making inaccurate statements in the House.

This channel will be available in high quality digital broadcast format. As SAORVIEW advances with hybrid solutions in set top boxes bringing innovative functionality and interactivity, the Oireachtas TV service can be part of the content offering that will help bridge the digital divide.

http://cce.gno.ie/news/2016/03/rteproposal.pdf

The journalist referred to in Sen. Humphreys comments to the Seanad is Deirdre McCarthy, political assignments editor of RTE's Oireachtas unit.

expectationlost

ST says it was shown last thursday at 12:40 http://www.rte.ie/entertainment/listings/television/#! http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/chef-gallaghers-african-adventure-turns-sour-9ks87f60d seems a repeat of documentary on PJMARA was shown after PrimeTime that night

its ridicolus I never watch it but it should be shown between 10 and 11, is it shown on news now at all?

brick man

expectationlost wrote:

thats ridicolus I never watch it but it should be shown between 10 and 11, is it shown one news now at all?

Oireachtas report is shown first at 11.10 pm Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday evening's on RTE News Now and it does show a fair bit of live dail coverage as well

Elmo

brick man wrote: »

Oireachtas report is shown first at 11.10 pm Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday evening's on RTE News Now and it does show a fair bit of live dail coverage as well

and it took them about 2 years to put Oireachtas Report on the Channel at an earlier time. I don't think it is repeated on the channel either.

brick man

Elmo wrote:

and it took them about 2 years to put Oireachtas Report on the Channel at an earlier time. I don't think it is repeated on the channel either.

It is repeated at 6.35am the following morning on News Now

Elmo

brick man wrote: »

It is repeated at 6.35am the following morning on News Now

Wow that's impressive how long did it take them to do that? a further year.

h7nlrp2v0g5u48

brick man wrote: »

It is repeated at 6.35am the following morning on News Now

I hope it's ok to post this here. The late debate is now on RTE News Now at 10pm for the last few weeks.

brick man

Elmo wrote:

Wow that's impressive how long did it take them to do that? a further year.

About 6 months !!!

brick man

Kara Happy Self-confidence wrote:

I hope it's ok to post this here. The late debate is now on RTE News Now at 10pm for the last few weeks.

Now it's a good lively debate programme but no graphics to indicate who's who , and from a publicly funded broadcaster it just looks a cheap attempt to fill airtime . A bit better presentation would be a start I think

Sam Russell

brick man wrote: »

Now it's a good lively debate programme but no graphics to indicate who's who , and from a publicly funded broadcaster it just looks a cheap attempt to fill airtime . A bit better presentation would be a start I think

A bit of advertising money might help with that.