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DESCENDING

  • 17-06-2016 11:52pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭


    The Alp D'Huez thread on this board reminded me of the misery of climbing the Alp and the Galibier however it also brought to mind the joy of descending the Lautaret. As a 200+lb behemoth the Alps are not my natural habitat however many years ago I descended the Lautaret into Bourg and hit the 60mph mark a few km before the tunnel at which point a German passed me as if I was on the brakes. Lets hear about great descents for a change instead of allways hearing about the ass wriggling climbing fairies.
    Coming down from the Sally Gap is fun too!
    Lets hear about resting your navel on the saddle and staying off the brakes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    Best one for me was on the TT circuit on the Isle of Man, one lap time trial of the island and 72mph after spinning out 54x11 on the way down from Kates cottage through Creg na Ba. Roads so smooth and closed!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,575 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    Descent off the col de la grand Colombier was pretty good. The Manchester side of home moss. Snake pass.
    Closer to whee I live . Hmm anywhere near my house is a 60+kmh descent.
    Glengesh is short sweet and you gain speed like rick thrown off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Sa Colabra in Majorca is my favourite.

    GCN have just posted this video:

    http://gcn.eu/1UAmwN7

    When I did it, we were blocked by a tour bus, but it's a great descent!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    Puerto San Glorio in Cantabria, 25km @5%. Road is smooth as silk. Plenty of hairpins and twists and turns but I did the first 14km averaging 50kmh and well over 70 in places. There's something about a long descent, it's almost like gliding
    https://www.strava.com/segments/1762412?filter=overall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    82kph on the Thorn coming off Spelga Dam nto Kilkeel in Co. Down last summer. Lovely open lines on the road and the thorn was steady as a rock...


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,173 ✭✭✭wanderer 22


    At 60kg I'm not a natural descender but I thought my attempt on the Old long hill descent(Enniskerry) today was decent...until I saw that my 48.8km/h average puts me 796th on the strava leaderboard :-P Anyway, I still enjoyed it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Took a sneaky peak at my garmin coming down into Laragh this morning to see 82kph on the clock. But as I've gotten older, more mature, and skinnier (amazingly), I've been more interested in increasing my speed going up the hill rather than down.
    But I always have a little marvel and a giggle when I'm coming home down the embankment at 55kph or so and I think of Wiggins maintaining such velocities on the flat. :eek:

    Good descents that stick in my mind though? - wicklow gap down either side, long hill is great if you get a free run, conor pass down into Dingle, and the Glandon last year in the direction of Bourg d'Oisans was seemingly interminable and awesome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 183 ✭✭Hauki


    3 my absolute favorites in no particular order:

    Tenerife:
    From El Retamar to Los Cristianos through Arona and Vilaflor. -2100m and 38km

    Spain:
    Sierra Nevada to Granada via A-395. -1900m and 37km

    Mallorca:
    Sa Calobra. -680m and 9.4km

    Hmm, I have a surpisingly Spain-heavy list.

    The upper bit of Sierra Nevada descent is simply amazing as the road is really smooth, has loooong sweeping turns and great visibility all around means that you can go insanely fast yet still do it relatively safely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


    col de Peyresourde going West would be my all time favorite descent. Hairpins with proper banking and smooth surface, little to brakes till the bottom. At 82km/h max it's not my fastest ever descent but the most enjoyable for sure.
    The fastest descent title for me would have to go local and is the Old Long Hill topping out at 86km/h. Due to the road surface and visibility issues there it's not my favorite descent by a long shot.
    However, the worst descent ever title from me would have to go to the West side of Col de Pailheres. Silly steep and impossibly tight hairpins combined with poor visibility makes it the hairiest descent I've ever done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,236 ✭✭✭Idleater


    Hmmzis wrote: »
    However, the worst descent ever title from me would have to go to the West side of Col de Pailheres. Silly steep and impossibly tight hairpins combined with poor visibility makes it the hairiest descent I've ever done.

    It was beautiful weather when I did that and I loved that hill, up and down. The long wide road descending into Prades further on the Raid route was 20 odd km of fun, with room to pass cars and campers. I remember the "use engine braking" warning signs.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭Hmmzis


    Idleater wrote: »
    It was beautiful weather when I did that and I loved that hill, up and down. The long wide road descending into Prades further on the Raid route was 20 odd km of fun, with room to pass cars and campers. I remember the "use engine braking" warning signs.

    The descent into Prades is from Col du Jau (last KOM on the Raid) and it's a fantastic one especially the run into Mosset after the initial hairpins are over.
    The descent from Col du Garavel is also class. Practically empty roads, we didn't meet a single car there. Visibility was great and we were able to use the whole width of the road. It's an amazing part of the world to be cycling in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭fondriest


    The descent of the Col de Sarenne which is the one that was used in between the two climbs of Alp D'huez in the 2013 Tour is absolutely brilliant , I don't even know if I could describe it very well but I know when I got to the bottom I had mixed emotions. I was relieved to have made it in one piece and wanted to go again. So I did .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Doing the London to Brighton about 5 years ago. Knew about Ditching Hill before the event, so hill training was a major part of the training. So wearing a Poker Dot Jersey on the day (yes totally not euro I know), I was an immediately marked man, and had a point to prove. Hauled my self and my 14 speed Alu frame over the top, before hitting a dizzy 75kph on the decent, overtook several, but had a few overtake me at agreat rate as well. Wimped out at that point with knees clamped to the top tube trying to prevent a speed wobble. As event is also on open roads, rumours of East Sussex Police and their speed trap was also on my mind.

    :D

    Only time I came close since, was on the Horse Shoe road up to Truskmore in Sligo, also the spot for my hill training. Hidden entrances, and pot holed littered track, had me knees clamped and feathering the brakes at 60 odd long before the speed wobbles.

    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,873 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    It might not be the fastest but its a local one.

    Cruagh Road, the S's coming down from the bridge (turn off to J Foxes) towards the bridge.

    Very short I'll admit, but there is a series of 5 of 6 sweeping bends which if you get right can be a lot of fun.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭Thud


    Luggala, Cunard (when moss free)and Kilgarron descents are all good for hitting 80kmh+


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,414 ✭✭✭✭Trojan


    On descents I freewheel past people who are pedaling. There's a nice descent locally, the back of Buckagh coming from Keenagh into Letterkeen, that I get around 75kmh without pushing it. I'd love to try for more but there's loose gravel on the surface and sheep usually by the roadside so not worth it.

    It's just after this:
    LSPhLkil.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭route66


    colm18 wrote: »
    At 60kg I'm not a natural descender but I thought my attempt on the Old long hill descent(Enniskerry) today was decent...until I saw that my 48.8km/h average puts me 796th on the strava leaderboard :-P Anyway, I still enjoyed it!

    The problem with this descent is that there are some car parks at the end of the initial steep part and I guess people exiting may not be expecting somebody on a bike to wizz by at 79 kmp/h.

    Which is what I recorded once ...

    Afterwards, I called myself to one side, had a chat with myself and now concentrate on speeds going uphill - not very fast :(

    Same would apply to Kilmashogue lane - far too many openings on to the road to allow for a fast & safe descent.


  • Posts: 16,720 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Wicklow Gap into Laragh, 81.5kph one fine day. My buddy with me got 81.9kph.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Crocked


    Thud wrote: »
    Luggala, Cunard (when moss free)and Kilgarron descents are all good for hitting 80kmh+



    Cunard is a good one, if it weren't for the sheep it'd be even better. Where's the Kilgarron one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭2 Wheels Good


    Coolieragh hill near Glengarriff is probably the best surfaced/safest descent I've seen down the south, a quick 500m burst and you're hitting 80+kph


    Coolieragh_hill.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭irishrover99


    Dónal wrote: »
    Wicklow Gap into Laragh, 81.5kph one fine day. My buddy with me got 81.9kph.

    Probably my favourite too. I think it is also the safest descent we have around Dublin/Wicklow area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    It might not be the fastest but its a local one.

    Cruagh Road, the S's coming down from the bridge (turn off to J Foxes) towards the bridge.

    Very short I'll admit, but there is a series of 5 of 6 sweeping bends which if you get right can be a lot of fun.
    Like the majority of descents in Wicklow, they can be a wonderful experience in the right conditions, and new pants time in the wrong conditions.

    When you've found yourself on the road at 10am some dry, windless, Wednesday morning, every descent is a dream, you can push them really hard.

    When it's windy, a lot of descents become fun with short periods of sheer terror when a side gust hits you. In the rain, you just can't trust the corners to hold you. When it's a weekend afternoon, there's just too much traffic.

    Did Sally Gap to Tallaght on the way back this weekend and the descent past the lake was absolutely zero fun whatsoever in wind and rain.
    Probably my favourite too. I think it is also the safest descent we have around Dublin/Wicklow area
    Which is a little depressing considering how many times a boy racer or motorcyclist has overtaken me at 65km/h+ on that descent.

    We have basically no good descents with wide, well paved roads and a steep gradient. The embankment road is about the best all-rounder, you can hit it hard in any conditions, but it's difficult to push past 60km/h without a big effort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭Thud


    Crocked wrote: »
    Cunard is a good one, if it weren't for the sheep it'd be even better. Where's the Kilgarron one?

    https://www.strava.com/segments/4250056?filter=overall

    the steepest bit has a good surface but you've got to get the brakes on quick when you get to the village


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭connie_c


    For sheer speed the road down to Old Leighlin in Carlow is very fast. https://www.strava.com/segments/7494329. Its the fastest I've ever gone anyway. 86.6 kmph top speed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,313 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    connie_c wrote: »
    For sheer speed the road down to Old Leighlin in Carlow is very fast. https://www.strava.com/segments/7494329. Its the fastest I've ever gone anyway. 86.6 kmph top speed.

    +1 86.4kph for me..scary!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭2 Wheels Good


    How the pros do it!! On his way to victory in the Tour de Suisse time trial Jon Izaguirre hit 110km/h on a descent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭mp31


    01Surveyor wrote: »
    ... the misery of climbing ... and the joy of descending...

    Does the former not increase the latter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭padyjoe


    connie_c wrote: »
    For sheer speed the road down to Old Leighlin in Carlow is very fast. https://www.strava.com/segments/7494329. Its the fastest I've ever gone anyway. 86.6 kmph top speed.

    It's a nice reward after climbing it. I find it a bit bumpy though.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    84kmph+ coming down a descesnt in wales, i remember looking down at the speedo and thinking, if I come off, thats that (and then trying to spin a bit faster).


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Dónal wrote: »
    Wicklow Gap into Laragh, 81.5kph one fine day. My buddy with me got 81.9kph.

    Not as fast as most here, 74kph Wicklow gap towards Hollywood, 72kph towards Laragh, Poorer road surface, but my current favourite Wicklow descent is this one. Quite long, good sight lines and very little traffic.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,901 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    smacl wrote: »
    Not as fast as most here, 74kph Wicklow gap towards Hollywood, 72kph towards Laragh, Poorer road surface, but my current favourite Wicklow descent is this one. Quite long, good sight lines and very little traffic.

    Hard to place that based on the link. I can't switch out of street view on my phone. Where is it?

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Brian? wrote: »
    Hard to place that based on the link. I can't switch out of street view on my phone. Where is it?

    Between Blessington and Laragh AFAIK, heading in the Laragh direction


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭Thud


    Think it's the descent of this climb or the descent after that climb towards Valleymount?
    https://www.strava.com/segments/890414


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭ILIKEFOOD


    about 17 months into cycling and have to say I dread descending. Max I've hit is 55ish. Easily done that on the flat at some points and no bother on me. I've only really started using the drops but still feels unnatural to me. Hopefully the nerves will go eventually.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Thud wrote: »
    Think it's the descent of this climb or the descent after that climb towards Valleymount?
    https://www.strava.com/segments/890414

    Thats the one


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭DanDublin1982


    ILIKEFOOD wrote: »
    about 17 months into cycling and have to say I dread descending. Max I've hit is 55ish. Easily done that on the flat at some points and no bother on me. I've only really started using the drops but still feels unnatural to me. Hopefully the nerves will go eventually.

    Im with you. If the road in front of me isn't relatively clear of traffic and also relatively visible I just am not comfortable on a descent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Skrynesaver


    Hit 78.8 this morning coming into Glencullen on the way in to work (not just bragging about going over the hills as part of a casual commute ;) ) dry roads, new Swiss Stop blocks normally start to panic over 55...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭Thud


    Hit 78.8 this morning coming into Glencullen on the way in to work (not just bragging about going over the hills as part of a casual commute ;) ) dry roads, new Swiss Stop blocks normally start to panic over 55...

    that's nice descent until you meet a car on one of the bends. if you can get a car to go ahead of you from the traffic lights in Glencullen to clear the way it helps unless they end up slowing you on the hill


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭Bloggsie


    about 45-47kph down mount joseph on the way into the strawberry beds, the turtle nearly popped his head out!!!!

    wont be doing that again.

    #scaredasfcukofmillingmeself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Skrynesaver


    Thud wrote: »
    that's nice descent until you meet a car on one of the bends. if you can get a car to go ahead of you from the traffic lights in Glencullen to clear the way it helps unless they end up slowing you on the hill

    Not that stretch, coming into Glencullen from Cruagh lane, long straight stretch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭Thud


    Not that stretch, coming into Glencullen from Cruagh lane, long straight stretch.

    thought you meant the Glencullen to Blue church section


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