Questions about LPG conversion

timeonmytoe

hi i have a Volkswagen Passat 2000 reg 1.6 Petrol very happy with it,perfect condition i have it only 6mts But she is heavy on petrol even though i drive easy 70/80 kms per hour.I was thinking of converting to Gas costing 700 euros approx.I intend to keep this car for 2/3yrs is it worth it i do biggish milage 15 ks yearly and would it effect my insurance. Thanks

Atlantic Dawn

Is there gas fueling stations near you? You should check with your insurer whether they will still offer cover with the gas conversion, some won't.

The mpg is worse with gas but the gas fuel is cheaper so with a combination of both perhaps 1/3 saving could be achieved from what you currently spend.

Supergurrier

Between the insurance bump conversion cost and value of car you could buy a newer tdi

XR3i

timeonmytoe wrote: »

hi i have a Volkswagen Passat 2000 reg 1.6 Petrol very happy with it,perfect condition i have it only 6mts But she is heavy on petrol even though i drive easy 70/80 kms per hour.I was thinking of converting to Gas costing 700 euros approx.I intend to keep this car for 2/3yrs is it worth it i do biggish milage 15 ks yearly and would it effect my insurance. Thanks

car sounds like a money pit, get rid of it and get yourself a yaris

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Underpowered engine in a big car + longish daily commute = €€€. If you're happy with the Passatt put your 700 towards taxing a 1.9tdi for the year and get rid of the one you have.

timeonmytoe

yes there is a gas station pretty near me,i will check with insurance today,will the mpg be lower and by how by how much approx or it worth the hassle and expence or will i buy something like a yaris,however i only paid 180euros (a friend) for her and she flew tru the test,spending approx 500 euros and that included 2 top quality tyres tracked and balanced.the test fee was extra.Thanks again

timeonmytoe

gas costs 63 cents a litre and gas Station very near me Thanks Guys

timeonmytoe

insurance tell's me no problem no bump in price but must produce proof it was done tru an official garage Thanks again

YbFocus

Work out how much you will save each year and see how long the pay back is.

Calculate the difference between the cost of both fuels over a year, taking the difference in mpg into account.

Find out an actual price for an install.

You say you'll keep the car three years max, at 15k km a year I'm not a million percent sure you'll be far into savings.

You gotta think of stuff like if you go on a break somewhere you gotta know where the nearest lpg station is all the time.

Work that all out and see where it leaves you.

timeonmytoe

Thanks for that i have checked my routes and i will allways be in range of a gas station
Best wishes and thanks again.

Notch000

a very quick calcuklation at 15km / yr and 1/3 saving would say you'l save 595euro per yr, so looks like a no brainer ot me if you intend on keeping the car.


700euro sound cheap fo the install tho

porsche boy

Notch000 wrote:

700euro sound cheap fo the install tho

There's a few garages doing conversions so the competition is driving down prices.

H3llR4iser

With modern conversion rigs, the LPG fuel consumption compared to the same engine running on petrol, is about 12% higher; In some EU countries LPG is almost as mainstream as diesel, I personally drove LPG powered cars in Italy for a decade. As long as your routes take you nearby a distributing station, it's really a no-brainer - also considering that you of course keep the petrol capability, so if you run out of gas in the middle of nowhere, you can always switch to the petrol system and keep going.

Honestly, if you can pay up the price of the conversion up front, the whole "savings" calculations are unnecessary. It's a matter of practical pocket availability - yes, you spend a chunk of cash right now, but the fact you're gonna spend only 20-25 Euro/week on fuel as opposed to 40/50 (assuming a 300km/week driving distance, compatible with the 15k per year) is going to make a difference in the immediate, not in years time.

If you need to pay for the conversion monthly, then the story is different...

timeonmytoe

thanks for that,i was in contact with the garage (cork) official garage, he gave what seemed a very good deal. the fone line was bad, i'm calling out to see him will be back later with full details later Cheers.

CiniO

There's various types of LPG conversions which might differ greatly in price.

Also there is plenty of different manufacturers of conversion equipment which might differ greatly on quality and abilities.

In general then quote of €700 doesn't say anything in regards if it's very cheap or very expensive.

_Brian

timeonmytoe wrote: »

insurance tell's me no problem no bump in price but must produce proof it was done tru an official garage Thanks again

But some insurance companies do, you'd be seriously reducing the number of companies who would quote you and in current insurance market that wouldn't be wise.

I'd be with others here, trade the car up for a diesel.

Barr

_Brian wrote: »

But some insurance companies do, you'd be seriously reducing the number of companies who would quote you and in current insurance market that wouldn't be wise.

Why would they ? It doesn't increase performance so why would they give a sh!te.

They just want to know if it is done professionally.

_Brian

End of the day it's a modification and mods scare the bejasus of them. This company may not mind but some definitely do.

Del2005

Barr wrote: »

Why would they ? It doesn't increase performance so why would they give a sh!te.

It's another container of dangerous fuel in the car. If the car goes on fire the risk of a big bang increases.

Would a car with lpg have to display the compressed gas and explosive stickers on the back? They are on ambulances for O2 and I see it on some cars and vans.

CiniO

Del2005 wrote: »

It's another container of dangerous fuel in the car. If the car goes on fire the risk of a big bang increases.

Would a car with lpg have to display the compressed gas and explosive stickers on the back? They are on ambulances for O2 and I see it on some cars and vans.

To be honest with you, I don't think it represents any noticable risk.

There's over 2 million vehicles (over 10%) with LPG in Poland, and I've never heard of a single case of LPG tank explosion.

They are designed to withstand huge forces during accidents.

timeonmytoe

Hi guys called out to the garage doing the LPG conversion in Cork Here goes oo reg 1.6 petrol passat Cost 1000 euros including vat, 5yrs Warranty, a service 70 euros every 50000 kms ,Prins conversion kit googled same a top brand,also if i change to another petrol car within the 5 yrs warranty cost 400euro to swap.Tank practially Bomb Proof,propane leak a spark vapourises allmost immediately very little fire petrol leak spark major fire that keeps burning,examples on youtube, different insurance companies could be a problem though,i talked to a taxi driver 08 avencis using gas 2 and half yrs very happy he said mpg loss was small i think i will chance it Thanks for all the help

grogi

timeonmytoe wrote: »

Hi guys called out to the garage doing the LPG conversion in Cork Here goes oo reg 1.6 petrol passat Cost 1000 euros including vat, 5yrs Warranty, a service 70 euros every 50000 kms ,Prins conversion kit googled same a top brand,also if i change to another petrol car within the 5 yrs warranty cost 400euro to swap.Tank practially Bomb Proof,propane leak a spark vapourises allmost immediately very little fire petrol leak spark major fire that keeps burning,examples on youtube, different insurance companies could be a problem though,i talked to a taxi driver 08 avencis using gas 2 and half yrs very happy he said mpg loss was small i think i will chance it Thanks for all the help

Don't forget about the tank - get the toroidal one that replaces the spare wheel.

grogi

Del2005 wrote: »

It's another container of dangerous fuel in the car. If the car goes on fire the risk of a big bang increases.

Would a car with lpg have to display the compressed gas and explosive stickers on the back? They are on ambulances for O2 and I see it on some cars and vans.

It is much less dangerous that petrol tank...

Petrol vapours are highly explosive. It is virtually impossible to have the concentration of LPG vapours to be...

timeonmytoe

Thanks Guys and Gals for all the views, advice, and Help.