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They all have to be fed !!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    ah but there small yet,dosent take much to feed them when they re small:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    The world does need more food but those who need it most are are not able to pay for it. It was a little unsettling watching the deaths clock up on the counter...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Not to worry they can buy their food in the supermarket.
    Cornflakes comes from aisle 1.
    Meat from the butchers counter.
    Milk comes from Glanbia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Wildsurfer wrote: »
    The world does need more food but those who need it most are are not able to pay for it. It was a little unsettling watching the deaths clock up on the counter...

    As someone said to me about milk going to china.
    "I think they've more important things on their mind. Like staying out of poverty."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,084 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    We mightnt have money ourselves for food at current prices, ironic..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,301 ✭✭✭A cow called Daisy



    And I thought rabbits were bad :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,718 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Food waste and overconsumption are big impactors. We already produce excess food as it is, it's just wasted, over consumed or just not distributed fairly.

    TBH there's more than a bit of a moral cloud over companies sending powdered baby milk to countries like Chima and using advertising to dissuade mothers from breastfeeding, bringing them further into poverty just to satisfy the overproduction of milk on countries like Ireland.

    Local food production on African nations is often destroyed when Europe dumps free or dirt cheap excess food into the system, this displaces the local
    Producers who go out of business, then when our glut is gone they are left with no local producers and so we've destroyed the natural food supply chain just to get rid of our over produced food.

    We need not think that all this glorious food we overproduce is saving the world, much of it is being produced just so large conglomerates can make a quick buck off farmers backs and at consumers expense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    _Brian wrote: »

    Local food production on African nations is often destroyed when Europe dumps free or dirt cheap excess food into the system, this displaces the local
    Producers who go out of business, then when our glut is gone they are left with no local producers and so we've destroyed the natural food supply chain just to get rid of our over produced food.

    We need not think that all this glorious food we overproduce is saving the world, much of it is being produced just so large conglomerates can make a quick buck off farmers backs and at consumers expense.

    Not sure I agree with the first part. I think we (farmers) blame ourselves too much for the worlds problems.

    Totally agree with the conglomerates part though.

    Oxfam of all organisations think that Africa can feed themselves if they can farm their own land and keep the food in their own countries.
    http://www.euractiv.com/section/development-policy/news/oxfam-africa-can-produce-the-food-it-needs/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,718 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    Not sure I agree with the first part. I think we (farmers) blame ourselves too much for the worlds problems.

    Totally agree with the conglomerates part though.

    Oxfam of all organisations think that Africa can feed themselves if they can farm their own land and keep the food in their own countries.
    http://www.euractiv.com/section/development-policy/news/oxfam-africa-can-produce-the-food-it-needs/

    I'm not blaming farmers, I suppose my point is that there isn't always an actual need for all this food, agribusiness is going out of its way to create markets and the markets they create aren't always good for the end consumer.
    And then it's not like the farmers are made up either, margins are at an all time low.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    _Brian wrote: »
    I'm not blaming farmers, I suppose my point is that there isn't always an actual need for all this food, agribusiness is going out of its way to create markets and the markets they create aren't always good for the end consumer.
    And then it's not like the farmers are made up either, margins are at an all time low.

    Yea but you see my point about with that article about foreign corporations buying or leasing land from African governments and farmers could have been there for generations and shoved off into towns and now that food/produce is being exported to Europe and asia when the local population could do with it worse.
    A bit like the big estates in Ireland exporting grain to Britain during the famine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,823 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Again its complicated. You'd be worried about the eu dumping milk powder in countries to get it out of intervention..
    Or american sugar or rice..some of it as aid programmes subsidising western farms (or agri business) / but destabilising local industry...
    In other places the export farm is the cash crop that pays cash to lots of workers to buy local food..
    Saw a zimbabwean avacado farm that used to employ hundreds ... but now nationalised and desserted...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Wildsurfer wrote: »
    The world does need more food but those who need it most are are not able to pay for it. It was a little unsettling watching the deaths clock up on the counter...

    I often wondered why they don't send them birth control instead it would make more sense and a cheaper option also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭kowtow


    Sam Kade wrote:
    I often wondered why they don't send them birth control instead it would make more sense and a cheaper option also.


    There's more profit to be made in a lifetime of processed foods than a few boxes of latex or pills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    kowtow wrote: »
    There's more profit to be made in a lifetime of processed foods than a few boxes of latex or pills.

    But they don't get enough food because they can't pay for it so not much profit there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,718 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Jesus lads, it's not really for us to impose population control either.

    Maybe if western and aisan governments looked at African nations as equals down the years rather than an opportunity to exploit them for cheap short term gain, maybe they would have had a fighting chance. But no, the countries were colonised, populations abused, natural resources pillaged, it has forever sent many of these countries into a spiral of institutionalised corruption and destitution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,396 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    I often wondered why they don't send them birth control instead it would make more sense and a cheaper option also.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ezVk1ahRF78

    There's a lot more than just birth control to it, but it's actually an area we have surprisingly made huge huge progress in already, most certainly in terms of the whole world.

    Btw that video above is one of the best presentations I've ever seen in terms of its use of simple visualisations to really hammer across his points!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,748 ✭✭✭ganmo


    Timmaay wrote: »
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ezVk1ahRF78

    There's a lot more than just birth control to it, but it's actually an area we have surprisingly made huge huge progress in already, most certainly in terms of the whole world.

    Btw that video above is one of the best presentations I've ever seen in terms of its use of simple visualisations to really hammer across his points!!

    HAHA the ad that came on at the start of that video was Durex...

    in the era of genetic testing for a whole range of conditions there is a degree of responsibility on those that know they carry potentially deadly genes to use measures so that those genes don't get passed on.


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