Replacing current Triton

McSween

I have two electric showers.

The one that is no longer working is in the en suite but I do not know the model of Triton it is. It was put in in 2006. The main bathroom has a Triton T80si.

As regards wattage, what can I buy? I don't want to screw it up by buying something that is too powerful for wiring (if that is possible).

Sleeper12

McSween wrote:

The one that is no longer working is in the en suite but I do not know the model of Triton it is. It was put in in 2006. The main bathroom has a Triton T80i.

If you are paying a company to install them then they will know the correct kW shower to use.
If doing it yourself have a look under the shower for a sticker. It will have the kW. There's another sticker in the shower itself. Failing that post photos of the top of the elements & I can tell you. A photo of the cable at the connection block would be a good idea too.
Triton t80i is a very old mains fed shower. Usually you would replace this with a triton t80z. You need to find out the model of the other triton. This could be mains or tank fed. It may even be a power shower rather than an electric shower. Again a photo posted here of the shower with the cover on should do the trick.

McSween

Many thanks for reply. I saw a sticker underneath and it says 9kw. I wont ve fitting the shower but will be buying it online. Ill try to post a picture now also.

It is electric as we rarely have hot water heating in immersion and I spend ages in the shower.

Sleeper12

That's another very old triton. You've done well to get so long out of them. Again the triton t80z would be a fine replacement.
It might be cheaper for the installer to supply & fit. He claims back 23% vat from the cost of the shower & then changes 13.5% vat on the whole job as it becomes a service. You should be saving 10 to 20 euro per shower that way. Something to think about anyway

EDIT: I'm just thinking that these showers are so old that they most likely don't have rcbo protection at the fuse box unless you updated the house electrics in the last few years. It would be an idea to get an electrician to check out the fuse box next time you have one in the house

McSween

The house was built in 2006 with those. There is a priority switch at fusebox so cannot be used at same time. Is that what you mean?

I was going to buy off amazon. A good saving there it seems.

Does it matter if a new shiwer is 9.5kw?

The en suite bathroom got great usage compared to main bathroom - therefore still hanging on.

McSween

Are t80gsi and t80 si alicante any good? Both 9.5kw

Sleeper12

McSween wrote:

The house was built in 2006 with those. There is a priority switch at fusebox so cannot be used at same time. Is that what you mean?

McSween wrote:

I was going to buy off amazon. A good saving there it seems.

McSween wrote:

Does it matter if a new shiwer is 9.5kw?

McSween wrote:

The en suite bathroom got great usage compared to main bathroom. The

Those showers must have been 2nd hand in 2006.
If you buy a triton shower on amazon that is only Intended for the UK market then triton don't offer a warranty here & you may not be able to get parts in Ireland for repair. If buying in the UK or B&Q or argus check triton Ireland website to make sure it is also sold in Ireland. If it's not meant for the Irish market you may have to post it back to the UK for repair.
When buying from the UK you need to look at the kW & the volts. A 9kw for Ireland is @230v. The same shower in the UK is 9.8kw @240v. You might think that the UK one is more powerful but it's not. They are the same power.
The best mains fed triton shower for Ireland is triton t80z because it can work on lower pressure than other models. So you might get something cheaper in the UK but it might not be as good even though it's the same manifacture

Sleeper12

McSween wrote:

Are t80gsi and t80 si alicante any good? Both 9.5kw

Anything saying si is an old model. After the si came the xr then about 6 years ago came the Z

amikoalien2

you should also check out
http://www.ie.screwfix.com/bathroom-kitchen/showering/showers?p=1
free delivery + 10 % off your first order
Bought 1 recently

Sleeper12

amikoalien2 wrote:

you should also check out

amikoalien2 wrote:

free delivery + 10 % off your first order Bought 1 recently

Again with screwfix it's a British company even with the. ie website address. So again here make sure that the model shower you are buying is meant for the Irish market

McSween

Superb information mate. Many thanks.

Stupid question but the recommended model you mention is on amazon at 9.5. Will this mean not intended for Ireland due to 0.5 kw difference therefore potentially being Unable to claim warranty here for parts?

Sleeper12

That looks like a good one to go for. You'd pay 190 Euro here for it. It say that they don't ship that to Ireland so you might have to use parcel model to get it here.

You should be able to get all parts for this shower in Ireland and it should be covered under the Irish warranty

McSween

No wiring adjustment needed due to 0.5 difference to broken one?

Sleeper12

McSween wrote:

No wiring adjustment needed due to 9.5 difference?

9.5kw at 240volts is just under 9kw at 230volts for Ireland. Its around the same kw as your old shower. All should be good. Your priority fuse box sounds up to date. I can't guarantee without seeing the set-up but sounds good from here

McSween

If I buy 10.5 kw will that run ok?

Triton said they won't cover parts btw.

Sleeper12

McSween wrote:

If I buy 10.5 kw will that run ok?

It depends on the size cable you have in the wall. You need 10mm cable for 10.5kw

McSween wrote:

Triton said they won't cover parts btw.

This is why I suggest that you pick a model that is sold by triton Ireland if you buy in the UK. They won't know if it was sold in the UK or Ireland so will cover it under warranty unless you tell them it was bought in the UK.

McSween

Fair enough. Good point.

McSween

Sleeper. May need to replace the main bathroom electric shower. Very happy with the 9.5 T80z as per this thread. Is this still the best on the market for my needs?

Sleeper12

McSween wrote: »

Sleeper. May need to replace the main bathroom electric shower. Very happy with the 9.5 T80z as per this thread. Is this still the best on the market for my needs?

The T80Z is mains fed & comes in 9KW

The Triton T90SR is tank fed & comes in 9KW

Both are good showers. We're really backing away from mains showers ourselves. You need around 3/4 bar or more of pressure for this to work. Almost everywhere has that but at peak times it might drop. We are seeing a lot of mains fed showers with great pressure failing because despite the good pressure the flow rate is bad. You need 8/9 litres per minute flow rate & we are finding as little as 4 litres per minute. The demand id Dublin has increased or Irish Water is reducing the amount of water

McSween

Looking back at your first post in response to my bathrom T80si model I will have to go for mains again. Water pressure seems fine. Im more interested in reasonable flow and hewt during winter.

Sleeper12

McSween wrote:

Looking back at your first post in response to my bathrom T80si model I will have to go for mains again. Water pressure seems fine. Im more interested in reasonable flow and hewt during winter.

To be honest they all do pretty much the same thing. I prefer triton to mira because the spare parts are cheaper and as a result the lifespan is much better than mira. Triton also offer a better backup service. But a mira 9kw is more of less the same a a triton 9kw
Your si is most likely 8.5kw and the Z is 9kw. So you'll have slightly better pressure & heat. It is easier to replace the SI with a Z rather than a different shower

McSween

Sleeper12 wrote: »

To be honest they all do pretty much the same thing. I prefer triton to mira because the spare parts are cheaper and as a result the lifespan is much better than mira. Triton also offer a better backup service. But a mira 9kw is more of less the same a a triton 9kw
Your si is most likely 8.5kw and the Z is 9kw. So you'll have slightly better pressure & heat. It is easier to replace the SI with a Z rather than a different shower

Will go amazon uk route again for it.

Sleeper12

Just to let you know that triton Ireland only offer a warranty on showers with an Irish receipt. Buy from Amazon and there is no warranty. If it is a model only intended for the UK then you won't get spare parts and won't be able to repair it here