RE:JF Hayflash , how does it work?

Magpie1951

Hi lads , anyone out there ever use a JF Hayflash (see pic below) for shaking out hay?

I have seen a few of these over the years in sales etc... but I have never seen one working!

How did it work/ what was the technique as opposed to the standard haybob?

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patsy_mccabe

Almost certain we had one here years ago, before we bought a haybob. It works like a conveyor, throwing the hay to the side. The tines are mounted on rubber belts that go around on the conveyor. It tended to roll the hay a lot rather than break it up like the haybob does. Also you have to start in the middle of the field and clear a track. You then turn the next row into that cleared area. At the time a good machine and an improvement on what was there before.

Kovu

Had two here over the years, both are retired in some ditch now :pac:
Here's a gif I just made so you can see the action, if you look up 'hay turner' on Youtube you'll find a few more, this looks to be a fairly fancy one.

RightTurnClyde

Oh F me, take down that pic.
Childhood summers spent going around headlands of fields turning the headland swart with a fork while the father crawled up and down the field with one of those on a zetor. Then when he went home to milk the cows Id be told to "break up the knobs"
A few days of that, followed by trying to make bales with a Jones bales. A baler that would only knot every second bale. So while you were stooking bales you were breaking up broken bales. And if you left a twine of a broken bale in a swart... well you'd want to have your running shoes on.
Ohhhhhhhh terrible times

Nekarsulm

With a small bit of modification, you could make a passable road/yard sweeper out of one of those.

They were known as "side delivery rakes" around here, passable for raking into rows, useless for tedding out.

Odelay

RightTurnClyde wrote: »

Oh F me, take down that pic.
Childhood summers spent going around headlands of fields turning the headland swart with a fork while the father crawled up and down the field with one of those on a zetor. Then when he went home to milk the cows Id be told to "break up the knobs"
A few days of that, followed by trying to make bales with a Jones bales. A baler that would only knot every second bale. So while you were stooking bales you were breaking up broken bales. And if you left a twine of a broken bale in a swart... well you'd want to have your running shoes on.
Ohhhhhhhh terrible times

OP, you asked the best technique to use, hardship, plenty of hardship, haybob is miles ahead of it.

I think they worked well in lighter crops in better drying conditions like Canada. I have seen them cut, turn and bale light crops in 24 hours.

The most popular use for them in Ireland is filling a gap in a dtich.

kollegeknight

I still use one the odd time. Although not as fancy as one on the gif. Use it to clear rushes. The brand I have is a pz. They are about €400 stil on done deal

rushvalley

Have a pz version of that. It gets used to row up a few acres of silage where the contractor can't get into with the rake as making rows with a haybob is a balls. Slow machine but makes a decent row if the grass is dry. I'll try get a video of it working when its out

Farrell

Nekarsulm wrote: »

With a small bit of modification, you could make a passable road/yard sweeper out of one of those.

They were known as "side delivery rakes" around here, passable for raking into rows, useless for tedding out.

I remember as a child seeing 2 rows put into 1, with 2 haysplitz (as called here) on a frame throwing the grass to the centre, and a hydraulic ram would swivel them upright to travel on the road

tabby aspreme

Have a farendlose version of the side delivery rake here, it's fairly shook but still works , bought new in the 70s along with a farendlose drum mower by my father, the operators manual has diagrams of how to turn hay starting in the middle of the field but in practice it doesn't work, good for raking but slow and noisy.

fastrac

We had the Franzgard version.

kollegeknight

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Have a farendlose version of the side delivery rake here, it's fairly shook but still works , bought new in the 70s along with a farendlose drum mower by my father, the operators manual has diagrams of how to turn hay starting in the middle of the field but in practice it doesn't work, good for raking but slow and noisy.

Serious earmuffs needed. Signs on my dad was stone deaf.

Muckit

We had two. One for parts! They were blue. Anybody know what make they would have been? Barely remember my father using them. Before my time.

I think l remember my uncle recalling that the plastic bushes that held the tines on belt used give trouble. Probably UV breakdown from being left out.

You pulled a pin and had them at a different angle when rowing. There was one gate out to the side.

One was thrown in the corner of a yard then til a bullock managed to empale himself on it. Hammond lane got it then.