Stupid Question (perhaps) but if TV set has Satellite tuner...

Ernest

This may be a stupid question but if a television receiver has a Saorview AND Satellite tuner would it still need a set- top box when connected to a satellite dish.
With Saorview I can get a signal with "rabbits ears" and no set-top box but don't know whether the same principle applies to UK Freeview stations. Any advice appreciated.

DopeTech

Ernest wrote: »

This may be a stupid question but if a television receiver has a Saorview AND Satellite tuner would it still need a set- top box when connected to a satellite dish.
With Saorview I can get a signal with "rabbits ears" and no set-top box but don't know whether the same principle applies to UK Freeview stations. Any advice appreciated.

No set-top box required if it has the tuner built in.

Sam Russell

You obviously need a satellite dish to receive satellite stations. For UK TV it needs to point to 28.2E.

UK Freeview is only available on some parts of the East Coast and near NI.

muffler

Sam Russell wrote: »

UK Freeview is only available on some parts of the East Coast and near NI.

I think he means free to air channels based on the content of the question

Digifriendly

muffler wrote: »

I think he means free to air channels based on the content of the question

This is a common problem in ROI where Freeview and FTA UK satellite channels are being described as one and the same thing when in fact they are different. Problem doesn't exist in NI because Freeview is associated solely with DTT and here AFAIK there are few who use FTA boxes as most of the UK channels (unlike ROI) can be viewed with an aerial.

Sam Russell

muffler wrote: »

I think he means free to air channels based on the content of the question

His TV has a satellite tuner - he asked can he receive both.

Captainsatnav

Hi there,

I live in Blackrock in Dublin so signal shouldn't be an issue here...
I have a new tv and I plugged in an aerial the other day. Getting the Saorview channels no problem.

However when I plugged in a RF cable in to the wall thing (attached) last night I couldn't pick up any UK channels. I had 'signal strength' of 25-30% but 'signal quality' was 0%. Does the presence of that box on the wall mean there's a satellite on the apartment building's roof?

It seems that the tv auto selected 'Astra 19.2' as the name. Not sure if that's relevant. Don't know what it means tbh.

Any advice much appreciated.

Mark

Sam Russell

That is a UPC/VM feed and probably carries the analogue channels. Try and do an analogue scan and see what you get.

It is certainly not a satellite dish.

Ask you landlord/management company if they have a communal dish.

Captainsatnav

Sam Russell wrote: »

That is a UPC/VM feed and probably carries the analogue channels. Try and do an analogue scan and see what you get.

It is certainly not a satellite dish.

Ask you landlord/management company if they have a communal dish.

Ok great at least I know. It still said on the screen I was getting 30% satellite signal when it was plugged in to it though?

What would a satellite connection / wire look like?

Sam Russell

Cork123456789 wrote: »

Ok great at least I know. It still said on the screen I was getting 30% satellite signal when it was plugged in to it though?

What would a satellite connection / wire look like?

It would not have UPC on it for a start.

It would typically have an 'F' type connector which is a screw-on type - there is one on the back of your TV if it has a sat tuner.

Richard

Sam Russell wrote: »

It would not have UPC on it for a start.

It would typically have an 'F' type connector which is a screw-on type - there is one on the back of your TV if it has a sat tuner.

This page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_connector shows the connection cable used for a satellite dish.

The picture on this page shows the rule of connection (although in this case it is a wall plate you need on a TV or Sat box. http://www.cables4all.co.uk/f-type-connection-wall-plate-1269-p.asp

Astra 19.2 is the position in the sky of the actual satellite. It is mostly foreign channels ;though it used to be the location of Sky (UK&I) analogue. It is unlikely thigh that you have a satellite DISH pointing in this direction. It will be pointing at 28.2E for Sky/Freesat or possibly at the Saorsat location.

Sam Russell

Richard wrote: »

This page https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F_connector shows the connection cable used for a satellite dish.

The picture on this page shows the rule of connection (although in this case it is a wall plate you need on a TV or Sat box. http://www.cables4all.co.uk/f-type-connection-wall-plate-1269-p.asp

Astra 19.2 is the position in the sky of the actual satellite. It is mostly foreign channels ;though it used to be the location of Sky (UK&I) analogue. It is unlikely thigh that you have a satellite DISH pointing in this direction. It will be pointing at 28.2E for Sky/Freesat or possibly at the Saorsat location.

What?

Did you look at the picture posted by the OP?

WHL

Going back to original OP I have a Samsung TV with both the Saorview and Satellite connections (F plug) in Cork City. I have the Saorview lead running up to the attic and I have the satellite lead running to a dish outside the house. You don't need a box and I am getting the UK Freesat channels. This gives me the main UK channels in HD (BBC1, BBC2, BBC4, ITV, C4, C5, BBC News etc). Works perfectly well if you don't want the Sky channels - although you get Sky News in SD. Only gripe with the TV is that it takes a number of button pushes to move from Saorview to Freesat and vice-versa

lgs 4

WHL wrote: »

Going back to original OP I have a Samsung TV with both the Saorview and Satellite connections (F plug) in Cork City. I have the Saorview lead running up to the attic and I have the satellite lead running to a dish outside the house. You don't need a box and I am getting the UK Freesat channels. This gives me the main UK channels in HD (BBC1, BBC2, BBC4, ITV, C4, C5, BBC News etc). Works perfectly well if you don't want the Sky channels - although you get Sky News in SD. Only gripe with the TV is that it takes a number of button pushes to move from Saorview to Freesat and vice-versa

Well you could buy Freesat HD box and use the TV for Saorview ,but you have two remotes

WHL

I don't mind it as I am used to it. Drives visitors mad as they can't figure it out. Maybe a good thing 😄

retepnosnikta

Ernest wrote: »

This may be a stupid question but if a television receiver has a Saorview AND Satellite tuner would it still need a set- top box when connected to a satellite dish.
With Saorview I can get a signal with "rabbits ears" and no set-top box but don't know whether the same principle applies to UK Freeview stations. Any advice appreciated.

If your TV has an input for satellite TV just plug the cable that comes from your satellite dish into this input and follow instructions for tuning satellite reception.

Capt'n Midnight

Cork123456789 wrote: »

However when I plugged in a RF cable in to the wall thing (attached) last night I couldn't pick up any UK channels. I had 'signal strength' of 25-30% but 'signal quality' was 0%. Does the presence of that box on the wall mean there's a satellite on the apartment building's roof?

It seems that the tv auto selected 'Astra 19.2' as the name. Not sure if that's relevant. Don't know what it means tbh.

Try Astra 2 28

As for the signal , it could be anything, do a full scan in case. If it's Virginmedia then there might even be analog channels.

retepnosnikta

Cork123456789 wrote: »

Ok great at least I know. It still said on the screen I was getting 30% satellite signal when it was plugged in to it though?

What would a satellite connection / wire look like?

If you are in an apartment complex chances are you have some form of cable distribution TV. Sounds like you are cabled for Virgin Media(formerly UPC). You'll need a subscription for that along with the receiver and modem they supply.

Your FTA option on your TV is redundant unless you can hook up a satellite dish cable feed directly to it. The dish size required to receive FTA services on Astra 28.2 is quite small and if you were lucky and facing the correct direction, one of those portable dish kits that you see on sale in Lidl from time to time could do the job.

Captainsatnav

retepnosnikta wrote: »

If you are in an apartment complex chances are you have some form of cable distribution TV. Sounds like you are cabled for Virgin Media(formerly UPC). You'll need a subscription for that along with the receiver and modem they supply.

Your FTA option on your TV is redundant unless you can hook up a satellite dish cable feed directly to it. The dish size required to receive FTA services on Astra 28.2 is quite small and if you were lucky and facing the correct direction, one of those portable dish kits that you see on sale in Lidl from time to time could do the job.

Great thanks! Best getting a guy in to do that rather than climb up on the roof?!