Joseph O’Brien Training Thread

Francie Barrett

First runners under his name are out Monday, declarations due Sunday. Will be good to keep an eye on him, I think he'll do well.

BumperD

He already has a large stable (about 100 in). Guess that will grow

posturingpat

Robbie Mc Namara will be starting soon too, be good to see if Dr Lamb or any of Welds crew have gave him a few nice types.

CH3OH

where will he be ?
Surely if he has a winner he'd like to be there


14:05 6th Jun 16 Gowran Park 7f Justice Frederick (IRE) D O'Brien
14:20 6th Jun 16 Listowel 2m Kalopsia (IRE) B J Geraghty
14:50 6th Jun 16 Listowel 2m Mai Fitzs Jack (IRE) B T O'Connell
16:05 6th Jun 16 Gowran Park 1m 1f 100y Song Of Love (IRE) D O'Brien
16:35 6th Jun 16 Gowran Park 1m 1f 100y Zig Zag (IRE) D O'Brien
16:35 6th Jun 16 Gowran Park 1m 1f 100y No Biggie (IRE) Anastasia O'Brien
17:20 6th Jun 16 Listowel 2m 4f Oathkeeper (IRE) Miss S O'Brien

Francie Barrett

CH3OH wrote: »

where will he be ?
Surely if he has a winner he'd like to be there


14:05 6th Jun 16 Gowran Park 7f Justice Frederick (IRE) D O'Brien
14:20 6th Jun 16 Listowel 2m Kalopsia (IRE) B J Geraghty
14:50 6th Jun 16 Listowel 2m Mai Fitzs Jack (IRE) B T O'Connell
16:05 6th Jun 16 Gowran Park 1m 1f 100y Song Of Love (IRE) D O'Brien
16:35 6th Jun 16 Gowran Park 1m 1f 100y Zig Zag (IRE) D O'Brien
16:35 6th Jun 16 Gowran Park 1m 1f 100y No Biggie (IRE) Anastasia O'Brien
17:20 6th Jun 16 Listowel 2m 4f Oathkeeper (IRE) Miss S O'Brien

I've thrown a few of these into various combinations. His supporters will want to get him off to a good start, so I'd be disappointed if there aren't 3 winners there.

bellybuster12

CH3OH wrote: »

where will he be ?
Surely if he has a winner he'd like to be there


14:05 6th Jun 16 Gowran Park 7f Justice Frederick (IRE) D O'Brien
14:20 6th Jun 16 Listowel 2m Kalopsia (IRE) B J Geraghty
14:50 6th Jun 16 Listowel 2m Mai Fitzs Jack (IRE) B T O'Connell
16:05 6th Jun 16 Gowran Park 1m 1f 100y Song Of Love (IRE) D O'Brien
16:35 6th Jun 16 Gowran Park 1m 1f 100y Zig Zag (IRE) D O'Brien
16:35 6th Jun 16 Gowran Park 1m 1f 100y No Biggie (IRE) Anastasia O'Brien
17:20 6th Jun 16 Listowel 2m 4f Oathkeeper (IRE) Miss S O'Brien

He was asked on ATR where he would be and he said he'd be at Goffs(sales)

Kauto

Aidan is still overseeing the saddling of the horses at the races. A friend of mine has a horse with him and Aidan was calling the shots and making sure everything was right. He's not going to let Joseph fail that's for sure!!!

CH3OH

14:05 Gowran Park
Full result
1st 4 Justice Frederick (IRE) 6/4
2nd 5 Leo Minor (USA) 6/5 f
Winning Trainer J O'Brien
Winning JockeyD O'Brien
Runners 7 ran
SF €4.11


Despite the drift and the heavily backed Favorite, it didn't spoil the Party

Francie Barrett

Mullins versus O'Brien in a bumper - how often are we going to see this in the future?

Francie Barrett

4 winners on his debut - not a bad way to get things started :pac: Shame Kalopsia battered that first hurdle, I would have had a lucky 31 up if it had won.

ziggy

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CH3OH

Time/date Course Distance Class Horse Jockey
16:35 8th Jun 16 Fairyhouse 1m 4f Udogo Anastasia O'Brien
17:05 8th Jun 16 Fairyhouse 1m 4f Navegante Anastasia O'Brien
17:05 8th Jun 16 Fairyhouse 1m 4f Sea of Blue (IRE) D O'Brien

BumperD

Looking forward to the first father v son clash

CH3OH

BumperD wrote: »

Looking forward to the first father v son clash

There was one that ran against his first runner on the 6th June where his dad's was gambled on

1st (6) 4 Justice Frederick (IRE) Joseph P O'Brien 2 9-5 D O'Brien (3) 6/4

2nd (2) 1½ 5 Leo Minor (USA) A P O'Brien 2 9-5 J A Heffernan 6/5f


It was bad enough when Aidan had 2 runners in a race
17:55 Leop

Butterflies (IRE) 2 9-0 A P O'Brien J A Heffernan
Perplexity (IRE) 2 9-0 Joseph P O'Brien Anastasia O'Brien

Joseph has Eagle Spirit in the 18:25 Leop and Aidan has 2 favourite Douglas MacArthur and Pipes of Peace


in the 20:55
Joseph has 1 No Biggie

Lt Dan

Even as a trainer he is handed everything. 100 horses already and probably a decent stocked yard

The way I see it is like a father handing over a business or setting up their children in some way. I don't get where the resentment is coming from. Would you resent David Pipe for the way he was set up?

He has had first hand tuition from one of the greatest trainers this country has ever seen.
Best of luck to him and I hope he succeeds.

BumperD

We have a wonderful history of knocking our own when they try to raise their head in any walk of life. Sad really

Francie Barrett

Lt Dan wrote: »

Even as a trainer he is handed everything. 100 horses already and probably a decent stocked yard

He's undoubtedly being backed in a way that no other rookie trainer could dream of, but at the end of the day the training game is result driven. If he doesn't do the business, he will be out on his ear.

Another winner there in 1st Clonmel

Lt Dan

Francie Barrett wrote: »

He's undoubtedly being backed in a way that no other rookie trainer could dream of, but at the end of the day the training game is result driven. If he doesn't do the business, he will be out on his ear.

Hey good luck to him. The fall will be harder if he fails,Charlie Swan amd Christy Roache had good support from JP

Joseph won't fail though, if one notes that Aiden gave him credit for things done in training.

Thing is, it is not what you know, but who you know, especially in a small country like Ireland. Good job Gordon Elliott has established himself by now.

What is guys like Eddie Lynam doing wrong? He jas shown that once he gets good horses he can achieve things :Anthem Alexander, Slade Power, Sole Power, Agnes Steward

100 horses and he is not even 25 .Wow

uxiant

Lynam is a great trainer but big owners want to win classics and premier races over a mile and middle distances which Lynam has failed to do. His strike rate in those races is horrific in comparison to his runners in sprints.

Lt Dan

uxiant wrote: »

Lynam is a great trainer but big owners want to win classics and premier races over a mile and middle distances which Lynam has failed to do. His strike rate in those races is horrific in comparison to his runners in sprints.

He has not really been given the horses (quality wise)to achieve it . Agnes Steward was potentially a good three year old but she got injured

But fair enough about your explanation. . Cowell in England also seems to be stuck with the speed king label too

tipptom

Just spent a million at the sales and when Aiden uses all his noms to the top stallions to his mares it can only get better.


Will be some force in Ireland and England

Francie Barrett

33/1 winner at Gowran just there - pipping his dads well backed horse to the post. Magnier and co. won't be pleased, especially with Aidan helping junior. Conflict of interest?

superfurry1

Stupid father's day lunch was gonna do it with feane horses today sick is not the word

tipptom

Hope they are as confident about his horse in the third in leopardstown or will one of Aidens spring out.


Have him all over the shop as a banker with Ken Condons in the first.

Xyzforsure

Boom

BumperD

He's been very active during the tatts derby sale last 24hrs

flutered

Lt Dan wrote: »

Even as a trainer he is handed everything. 100 horses already and probably a decent stocked yard

what really matters is his ability to produce winners, look at the irish 1,000 guineas

Andalucia

going to be a force to be reconked with across both codes, wonder how long before he'll have to go concentrate on one code, has the momentum now and plenty of support going by his purchasing this week

Lt Dan

Andalucia wrote: »

going to be a force to be reconked with across both codes, wonder how long before he'll have to go concentrate on one code, has the momentum now and plenty of support going by his purchasing this week

I know some of the training for flat horses is done in the winter, but he is young, would it be possible for him to give both codes ago for a while? He'd hardly go flat full time while his father is around? I know one of Vincent O'Brien's sons famously pipped the father at the Epsom Derby.