I don't want to work -- is SWA the correct allowance to apply for?

FiannaSuccess

Due to various reasons I don't want to work at present, is the aforementioned allowance the correct one to apply for?

Will I encounter any problems applying for said allowance as an Irish national?

Many thanks,

FS

Balagan

Conditions
You will normally qualify for Supplementary Welfare Allowance if you satisfy the following conditions:
You are living in the State.
You satisfy the means test.
You have applied for any other benefit or allowance you may be entitled to.
You satisfy the habitual residence test, except for an Exceptional Needs Payment. EU/EEA workers and Swiss nationals working here will satisfy the habitual residence condition. However, people from the EU/EEA or Switzerland who move to Ireland in search of employment are subject to the habitual residence test in the normal way while looking for work.
You have registered for work with your local Employment Services Office/Intreo office if you are of working age.....http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/supplementary_welfare_schemes/supplementary_welfare_allow.html

Jayop

Sure fire popcorn thread if ever I seen one.

Kia_Kaha

How many people DO feel like working?

If we all stopped, what would happen to the scroungers then eh?

FiannaSuccess

Kia_Kaha wrote: »

How many people DO feel like working?

If we all stopped, what would happen to the scroungers then eh?

I'm not interested in this kind of reply tbh.

So, is it possible for me to apply for SWA with no intention of working? Or do I have to lie and apply for JSA?

me_irl

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

I'm not interested in this kind of reply tbh.

So, is it possible for me to apply for SWA with no intention of working? Or do I have to lie and apply for JSA?

Mightn't be a reply that interests you, but it's a valid point.

Your query has been answered by Balagan above.

RedXIV

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

I'm not interested in this kind of reply tbh.

So, is it possible for me to apply for SWA with no intention of working? Or do I have to lie and apply for JSA?

If you're fit and healthy and over the age of 18, they will expect you to apply for JSA. You might be able to skip over this if you are not in good health but I imagine this lines you up for disability payment instead which I believe is another payment, not SWA?

nicol

Oh dear, this isn't going to end well at all!!

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

I'm not interested in this kind of reply tbh.

So, is it possible for me to apply for SWA with no intention of working? Or do I have to lie and apply for JSA?

FiannaSuccess

me_irl wrote: »

Mightn't be a reply that interests you, but it's a valid point.

Your query has been answered by Balagan above.

That post seems to suggest that swa is only payable to those who are applying for another benefit, can someone confirm is this the case?

I would prefer not to lie and have to apply for JSA as I will not be looking for work;however, if I have to, I will lie.

njs030

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

That post seems to suggest that swa is only payable to those who are applying for another benefit, can someone confirm is this the case?

I would prefer not to lie and have to apply for JSA as I will not be looking for work;however, if I have to, I will lie.

You will be asked to prove on a regular basis that you are looking for work or you will lose money.

To answer your question, there is no social welfare payment for a person who just decides they don't feel like working.

FiannaSuccess

notjustsweet wrote: »

You will be asked to prove on a regular basis that you are looking for work or you will lose money.

To answer your question, there is no social welfare payment for a person who just decides they don't feel like working.

Okay, it looks like I'll be pretending to be a "Jobseeker" then.

Hey, it's an extra 2€ a week, money the state could have saved. Oh well..

me_irl

notjustsweet wrote: »

To answer your question, there is no social welfare payment for a person who just decides they don't feel like working.

And thank f*ck there isn't. Could you imagine?

We obviously don't know your situation, nor your actual reasons for asking this.

I'd go as far as suggesting seeking medical assistance with any issues you're currently experiencing. Physically or psychologically.

livedadream

best of luck with Turas Nua.

FiannaSuccess

livedadream wrote: »

best of luck with Turas Nua.

What is "turas nua"?

tea and coffee

Stop trolling FS. joined today and started 2 inflammatory threads.

van_beano

notjustsweet wrote: »

To answer your question, there is no social welfare payment for a person who just decides they don't feel like working.

Somebody might wanna tell that to a certain section of society.

endacl

me_irl wrote: »

We obviously don't know your situation, nor your actual reasons for asking this.

Situated under a bridge. Reason for asking? Same.

porsche boy

FiannaSuccess wrote:

That post seems to suggest that swa is only payable to those who are applying for another benefit, can someone confirm is this the case?

How about you go to the citizens information and find out yourself, you appear to be doing f@&* all else.

livedadream

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

What is "turas nua"?

it where you will be sent when they realise you have no intention of gaining meaningful employment.

or jail? whats the sentence for fraud these days?

save your case officer the time and fill this in will ya?

https://www.welfare.ie/en/pages/secure/reportfraud.aspx

FiannaSuccess

tea and coffee wrote: »

Stop trolling FS. joined today and started 2 inflammatory threads.

I promise you this is not some kind of wind up. You don't know my persoanl circumstances so please refrain from being so judgemental.

wokingvoter

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

I'm not interested in this kind of reply tbh.

So, is it possible for me to apply for SWA with no intention of working? Or do I have to lie and apply for JSA?

No its not.
You only apply for SWA if you have applied for another SW payment and you are waiting for your claim to be processed and you need financial assistance while waiting.
So if you aren't ill and waiting for a payment or jobseeking and waiting for a payment or caring for someone and waiting for a payment or retired and over 66 and waiting for a payment then you are not entitled to SWA.

endacl

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

I promise you this is not some kind of wind up. You don't know my persoanl circumstances so please refrain from being so judgemental.

Y'know.... Your threads aren't really working either...

wokingvoter

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

That post seems to suggest that swa is only payable to those who are applying for another benefit, can someone confirm is this the case?

I would prefer not to lie and have to apply for JSA as I will not be looking for work;however, if I have to, I will lie.

In order to apply for JSA you will have to tell them where you have been looking for work and give them proof of same. You will be required to attend regularly at your local SW office to discuss your jobsearching.
If you cannot apply for JSA because of personal circumstances, you need to attend your local CWO clinic and discuss your situation with him or her.

FiannaSuccess

wokingvoter wrote: »

To apply for JSA they will ask you where you have been looking for work and to give them proof, and they will bring you in to meeting to discuss your job searching and your CV etc.

Fine, I'll be applying for CEO positions at the likes of Google and facebook.

Got to aim high and all that.

timmy880

Wow of all the stuff that is moderated around here and this thread is still going on when its clear this is a troll....

van_beano

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

Fine, I'll be applying for CEO positions at the likes of Google and facebook.

Got to aim high and all that.

I don't think you'll find CEO job vacancies on any websites, think they're usually head hunted positions or internal promotions.

FiannaSuccess

timmy880 wrote: »

Wow of all the stuff that is moderated around here and this thread is still going on when its clear this is a troll....

I'm asking a genuine question. If you have nothing constructive to add, why bother posting?

FiannaSuccess

van_beano wrote: »

I don't think you'll find CEO job vacancies on any websites, think they're usually head hunted positions or internal promotions.

I shall write cover letters to show to the dole office.

tea and coffee

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

I promise you this is not some kind of wind up. You don't know my persoanl circumstances so please refrain from being so judgemental.

No, I don't know your circumstances, but I am not judging you for not wanting to work; I am judging you for trolling- what, if anything, has that got to do with your personal circumstances?

van_beano

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

I shall write cover letters to show to the dole office.

The dole office mightn't take you seriously, try aiming a bit lower.

livedadream

im guessing the OP has the same opinion of people working in the DSP as he does the guards

pity.

tea and coffee

livedadream wrote: »

im guessing the OP has the same opinion of people working in the DSP as he does the guards

pity.

And they of him, no doubt

wokingvoter

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

Fine, I'll be applying for CEO positions at the likes of Google and facebook.

Got to aim high and all that.

That doesn't work.
Your jobsearching needs to match your qualifications.
You do realise they will require your educational or trade qualifications?

livedadream

wokingvoter wrote: »

That doesn't work.
Your jobsearching needs to match your qualifications.
You do realise they will require your educational or trade qualifications?

ive a feeling he's more of the charming, i'm ENTITLED TO IT,
give me my money no matter what i do...

NOW

kinda guy...

FiannaSuccess

wokingvoter wrote: »

That doesn't work.
Your jobsearching needs to match your qualifications.
You do realise they will require your educational or trade qualifications?

I have a degree to fob them off with. How many people working in the DSP have a degree?

wokingvoter

livedadream wrote: »

ive a feeling he's more of the charming, i'm ENTITLED TO IT,
give me my money no matter what i do...

NOW

kinda guy...

SW staff are very used to all that and can spot them from a distance of 100yards and treat them appropriately.

livedadream

wokingvoter wrote: »

SW staff are very used to all that and can spot them from a distance of 100yards and treat them appropriately.

yeap then they get shipped off to tursa nua...

enjoy OP.

to be fair he's trolling.. i cant figure out how to report a whole thread though only a post...

wokingvoter

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

I have a degree to fob them off with. How many people working in the DSP have a degree?

Quite a few actually. You might be surprised. In fact im pretty sure your in for a few surprises.

me_irl

livedadream wrote: »

to be fair he's trolling.. i cant figure out how to report a whole thread though only a post...

Report the first post.

That's what I did.

In my opinion, this thread has run its course.

inforfun

School summer holidays already?

livedadream

me_irl wrote: »

Report the first post.

That's what I did.

In my opinion, this thread has run its course.

done thanks.

FiannaSuccess

It's amazing how spiteful and judgemental people are without knowing one jot about my situation.

Kimbot

FiannaSuccess wrote: »

It's amazing how spiteful and judgemental people are without knowing one jot about my situation.

Well you havent told anyone your situation all you have done is show how your willing the sit on the dole and treat gardai with no respect so people will judje you based on what youve provided.

Riesen_Meal

jonnycivic wrote: »

Well you havent told anyone your situation all you have done is show how your willing the sit on the dole and treat gardai with no respect so people will judje you based on what youve provided.

Possible rereg?

cee_jay

Mod Note: Thread closed as OP's question was answered in first post.