Paying for something with pennies ?

pudzey101

Quick but stupid question , went to pay a small parking fine today with a jar of coins iv collected over the past few months . the place stated they "only accept cash in terms of notes" ? whats the law regarding this ? iv heard some places are required to accept coins of payment as it is "legal tender"

thanks.

Fred Swanson

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Squall Leonhart

The following is an extract from the Economic and Monetary Union Act, 1998:

10(1)   No person, other than the Central Bank of Ireland and such persons as may be designated by the Minister by order, shall be obliged to accept more than 50 coins denominated in euro or in cent in any single transaction

pudzey101

Guess ill have to root out my 40e fine in the form of 1 euro coins now so

johnnyskeleton

Lots of shops have machines where you can go to change coins into notes for a small fee. Or some banks will do it.

Or if you trying to pay in coins as a two fingered salute to the man, then fair play!

GM228

Fred Swanson wrote: »

Coins are only legal tender up to 50 coins.

It's more accurate to say oins over 50 coins are also legal tender, just nobody bar the central bank are obliged to take them, but they can if they wish.

Also I'm curious whilst that says no one is obliged to accept more than 50 coins in any one transaction is there anything saying that less than 50 coins must be accepted? I don't think there is?

Fred Swanson

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Icaras

GM228 wrote: »

Also I'm curious whilst that says no one is obliged to accept more than 50 coins in any one transaction is there anything saying that less than 50 coins must be accepted? I don't think there is?

I think thats what is implied from the legislation.

Yawns

Fred Swanson wrote: »

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So long as it is under 50 coins. If over such as €40 in 1 cent coins, then it can be refused as per the act quoted a few posts above you.

People have tried this before with paying fines in pennies and failed. If you end up in front of a judge for failure to pay a fine and they hear that you tried to act the maggot and pay in 1 cent coins only, do you really think it would be a complete defence and that the judge wouldn't lose the rag for wasting court time?

Most people are fined for a legitimate reason. The reasonable people would say fair enough and then either pay the fine or appeal it if innocent. The idiots try to be clever by paying in cent coins and usually end up going to silly efforts that look like a waste of time from the very start and end up being so.

Fred Swanson

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Yawns

Sorry Fred, thought you were saying a defence would exist for over 50. Apologies.

whippet

pudzey101 wrote: »

Guess ill have to root out my 40e fine in the form of 1 euro coins now so

they will probably be quite happy with €1 coins for change.

I reckon your plan to get one back on the establishment has probably backfired, you will have to make a second trip to pay the one fine, had to count out a load of coins and will still end up paying.

All the while the heads behind the counter are probably having a good auld laugh at the bloke to rocked in with a bag of coins and had march back out with the same back of coins with his tail between his legs!!

coylemj

johnnyskeleton wrote: »

Or if you trying to pay in coins as a two fingered salute to the man, then fair play!

The counter clerk who would have had to count those coins is not the person who issued the parking ticket, or who decided that parking was prohibited where the OP parked.

This is one of those situations where someone with a grievance against the system decides to let off steam and picks an innocent functionary as his victim in a stunt which he will brag about in the pub but which will achieve absolutely nothing.

skibum

pudzey101 wrote: »

Quick but stupid question , went to pay a small parking fine today with a jar of coins iv collected over the past few months . the place stated they "only accept cash in terms of notes" ? whats the law regarding this ? iv heard some places are required to accept coins of payment as it is "legal tender"

thanks.

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Fred Swanson

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Fian

If you pay a fixed penalty notice they agree not to prosecute you. Without that agreement they are free to prosecute you. So if they will not agree to not prosecute for a payment in coins they are free to prosecute.

This is not a debt that where you can claim you tendered the amount due as a defence to an action for debt.

Pay them in notes, or don't and face the consequences.

SteM

skibum wrote: »

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Fred Swanson

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Lukey101

Fred Swanson wrote: »

The court did not accept his coins and they simply told him to come and fetch them back.[/quote

I've seen this before he actually paid too much, they counted it all and gave him the difference back.