Cattle horns

Clint power 30

Have a steer with horn growin in towards side of head.just wondered if cut a inch or that of would it bleed . He goin for slaughter in 2/3months so don't want hassle of cuttin at butt and try to keep flys away this time of year

Justjens

Take off an inch no bother to him, just enough to give him relief if he'll be slaughtered soon, no fear of bleeding but don't get carried away.

Clint power 30

Justjens wrote: »

Take off an inch no bother to him, just enough to give him relief if he'll be slaughtered soon, no fear of bleeding but don't get carried away.

Sound lad was thinkin of using file either to take bit of .

Capercaillie

The wire the vets use will saw the horn off and stop bleeding

Base price

Capercaillie wrote: »

The wire the vets use will saw the horn off and stop bleeding

Not true. Piano wire does not prevent bleeding.
IMO the only way to restrict bleeding after sculling is if the vet pulls the vessels there and then. Otherwise use a strip of cut tyre tube as a ligature around the horn area to restrict blood loss.

Capercaillie

Base price wrote: »

Not true. Piano wire does not prevent bleeding.
IMO the only way to restrict bleeding after sculling is if the vet pulls the vessels there and then. Otherwise use a strip of cut tyre tube as a ligature around the horn area to restrict blood loss.

Hardly any bleeding to begin with when only taking the tips off. With the horns growing in often impossible to stop bleeding by tying twine/rubber around the base of horns. Can't pull veins unless you saw in tight to head.

Justjens

Clint power 30 wrote: »

Sound lad was thinkin of using file either to take bit of .

Use a hacksaw

Grueller

Justjens wrote: »

Use a hacksaw

Always found a tenon saw way better. Much quicker and just as clean.

Base price

Capercaillie wrote: »

Hardly any bleeding to begin with when only taking the tips off. With the horns growing in often impossible to stop bleeding by tying twine/rubber around the base of horns. Can't pull veins unless you saw in tight to head.

Stand corrected but sawing growing tips is the same as sawing the base - they pour blood

Capercaillie

Base price wrote: »

Stand corrected but sawing growing tips is the same as sawing the base - they pour blood

If you saw tight, you go into the sinus and saw through blood vessels, they spray blood. If you saw near the tip they don't pour blood. Near the end of the horn they won't even bleed.

Water John

The tip of a full horn generally wont bleed as its inert like your toenail at that point. If an effort was made at any time previously to debud, it will bleed if you cut.
There are rubber bands on the market or use Base Price DIY method.
That band does limit bleeding. It catches the blood supply vessel which seems to be under the horn.

Base price

Capercaillie wrote: »

If you saw tight, you go into the sinus and saw through blood vessels, they spray blood. If you saw near the tip they don't pour blood. Near the end of the horn they won't even bleed.

Depends on age and breed/crosses.
I have sculled a few in my time and thankfully never lost any due to blood loss from dehorning. Have had issues with sinus problems but that was mainly due to wet weather conditions after sculling. Thankfully no problems this year

Miname

Saw away if it's still bleeding the next day id be calling a vet but I think there's very few will not clot. I've done a lot and had no issue. It's the end of a horn it's not going to have much if any blood.

kay 9

If the horn is growing towards the head it could be he was badly dehorned or disbudded before and I'd be very careful if that's the case. Nasty job at the best of times.

Bass Reeves

Know a lad that puts sudocream into the hollows and sprays with stockholm tar. Sudo cream falls out after a week stops flies he uses strips of bicycle tubing for 25 hours to restrict bleeding. When he cuts the tubing after 24 hours he sprays again with tar.

Muckit

Yes the bicycle tubes are a wheely good job...

Jaysus Christ

Muckit wrote: »

Yes the bicycle tubes are a wheely good job...

I used to pull the veins myself. But we used a stock still. Horrible job.

Bullocks

Muckit wrote: »

Yes the bicycle tubes are a wheely good job...

Aw Muckit !!!!

Sam Kade

Grueller wrote: »

Always found a tenon saw way better. Much quicker and just as clean.

A tenon saw is what was used in the old days and a rubber band at the base of the horns to stop bleeding, you wouldn't want to forget to remove the bands after a few days. A lot less hassle to dehorn calves at the right stage.

Capercaillie

Base price wrote: »

Depends on age and breed/crosses.
I have sculled a few in my time and thankfully never lost any due to blood loss from dehorning. Have had issues with sinus problems but that was mainly due to wet weather conditions after sculling. Thankfully no problems this year

The last resort to stopping bleeding is the Prayer for the blood.

Genghis Cant

If its an animal with a misshapen horn growing into the head, I'd use the wire if the saw can't fit. If you take off the very tip maybe an inch or so there won't be a drop of blood. You might notice a slight colour change in the tip between where it will and where it won't bleed. If he's off to the factory all you need do is take the offending tip off, not skull him. Half an inch gap will do you more than likely.

greysides

Genghis Cant wrote: »

If its an animal with a misshapen horn growing into the head, I'd use the wire if the saw can't fit. If you take off the very tip maybe an inch or so there won't be a drop of blood. You might notice a slight colour change in the tip between where it will and where it won't bleed. If he's off to the factory all you need do is take the offending tip off, not skull him. Half an inch gap will do you more than likely.

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