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Vertical party wall!

  • 24-05-2016 11:19am
    #1
    antiskeptic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭


    I understand that a party wall between properties to the side is considered as belonging to both parties.

    But suppose a bit of a neighbours property extends overhead such that upstairs of the structure belongs to the neighbour and downstairs belongs to you.

    Is a downstairs structural wall (a wall in your property) rendered a party wall because that wall extends upwards into the neighbours property?

    Another question springs to mind. Who owns the floor/ceiling joists separating this section of the property? The neighbours floor lies atop and your ceiling is attached below. They considered party also?

    The property isn't an apartment, rather is an old property divided up over the years in a strange way.

    Cheers


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  • #2
    sydthebeat
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    sounds like a multi storey registration issue

    so yes, the wall is a party wall if it divides your property from anothers, and the floor is a party floor.


  • #3
    antiskeptic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,555 ✭✭✭antiskeptic


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    sounds like a multi storey registration issue

    so yes, the wall is a party wall if it divides your property from anothers, and the floor is a party floor.

    Time to go talk to the neighbours!

    Could you elaborate on a multistorey registration issue? What, and who, are entailed?


    Another things springs to mind: fire rating.

    I just helped out a friend in getting a fire rated stud partition erected in her attic since the space was previously open over two house (the party wall halted at ceiling in upstairs bedroom). No real issue as it didn't cause disruption for the neighbour.

    But how do you achieve the same when the upstairs potentially doesn't want their property interfered with. I'd suppose they like effective partitioning (assuming none there at present) but if they don't row in, can you construct a partition from just below ceiling? I dunno: fire rated hangers inserted between the existing joists onto wall and then boarded .. or summit?


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