Gigginstown remove horses from Martin and Hughes

Earendil

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I'm desperately disappointed for Tony who is a paragon of virtue and honesty in Horse racing.

Johner

Ah poor Tony.

famagusta

I don't think its any good for racing to see Elliot and Mullins getting even more good horses. I'd like to see a better spread. I wonder will Colm Murphy get any?!

Rumour has it Ricci bought another 22 from France two months ago with Mullins.

Francie Barrett

famagusta wrote: »

I don't think its any good for racing to see Elliot and Mullins getting even more good horses.

I don't think it's good for racing that Tony Martin has any involvement in horse racing.

Harry Angstrom

Disappointed for Sandra Hughes, considering she trained an Irish National winner for them last year and she's obviously new to the training ranks. Couldn't give a toss about Tony Martin.

Shanee.

Ruthless owners. They want results and they clearly werent happy with the results from these two yards!

Nulty

Yeah no word of where they're going. Some will be sold I'm sure like Savello and Rathlin.

Shanee.

Nearly sure I seen Rathlin running in England lately for Hammond or someone.

Andalucia

De Bromhead likely to get a few

Meade must be on his last chance this year, not exactly great results he's getting them, although they seemed to force his hand with Road to Riches

pity not to see any new young national hunt trainer breaking through, O'Brien is going to be a primary JP operation, Giggi hardly going to send him a few

Murphy is going backwards, would love to see Winters get a few, though he probably wouldnt tolerate Eddie!

BumperD

Mouse will get a good few

Lt Dan

Johner wrote: »

Ah poor Tony.

Light a few candles tonight in his honour.

Lt Dan

famagusta wrote: »

I don't think its any good for racing to see Elliot and Mullins getting even more good horses. I'd like to see a better spread. I wonder will Colm Murphy get any?!

Rumour has it Ricci bought another 22 from France two months ago with Mullins.

I doubt O'Leary gives a damn .You are right but if one is paying anything fom e200 plus Vat per week (correct me on this) to keep a horse with an underperforming trainer and the add the other expenses ,one could not blame an owner to send their horses to the more successful trainers. Gigginstown like McManus have tried to spread the wealth.

How old is John Kiely, he has done a super job with Carlingford Lough and flat horses like Toe the Line

Lt Dan

Shanee. wrote: »

Ruthless owners. They want results and they clearly werent happy with the results from these two yards!

While everyone will be sorry for Hughes, Gigginstown are paying the bills. To be fair some of those horses might not be good enough anymore eg Sub Lietenant,Thunder and Roses

famagusta

Lt Dan wrote: »

I doubt O'Leary gives a damn .You are right but if one is paying anything fom e200 plus Vat per week (correct me on this) to keep a horse with an underperforming trainer and the add the other expenses

It would be costing about 2000 per month per horse with hughes and tony i'd say

finbarrk

Lt Dan wrote: »

I doubt O'Leary gives a damn .You are right but if one is paying anything fom e200 plus Vat per week (correct me on this) to keep a horse with an underperforming trainer and the add the other expenses ,one could not blame an owner to send their horses to the more successful trainers. Gigginstown like McManus have tried to spread the wealth.

How old is John Kiely, he has done a super job with Carlingford Lough and flat horses like Toe the Line

It would be about double €200 per week.

Kauto

famagusta wrote: »

It would be costing about 2000 per month per horse with hughes and tony i'd say

Gigi pay an all in fee per horse per month. Its a take it or leave it deal and its less than that. Proper way to run things.

Hughes stable is only going one way and Martin should go back to what he does best. Must be a virus in the stable at the minute.
Morris is a great man for getting horses right for Cheltenham and Aintree but is a write off most of the rest of the year.

kfallon

Nulty wrote: »

Yeah no word of where they're going. Some will be sold I'm sure like Savello and Rathlin.

Savello was already sold wasn't he? Didn't he top a horses in training sale? With Dan Skelton now!

Andalucia

Lt Dan wrote: »

I doubt O'Leary gives a damn .You are right but if one is paying anything fom e200 plus Vat per week (correct me on this) to keep a horse with an underperforming trainer and the add the other expenses ,one could not blame an owner to send their horses to the more successful trainers. Gigginstown like McManus have tried to spread the wealth.

How old is John Kiely, he has done a super job with Carlingford Lough and flat horses like Toe the Line

John Kiely is 79, well able to train them alright, for a small stable, always seems to get a few decent winners

Don't blame Gigginstown for looking for high standards, wonder has Shark a chance of getting a few!

posturingpat

Speaking of Martin. Kinnity castle's meant to be having his day in the sun tomorrow or he'll be in dogfood next week. Look out for the plunge.

Niallers87

posturingpat wrote: »

Speaking of Martin. Kinnity castle's meant to be having his day in the sun tomorrow or he'll be in dogfood next week. Look out for the plunge.

3/1 now; quiet a gamble

posturingpat

Dogfood it is

Francie Barrett

posturingpat wrote: »

Dogfood it is

We go again. 7:05 today.

Kauto

Francie Barrett wrote: »

We go again. 7:05 today.

The horse has zero chance of running tonight. He is as wrong as wrong could be. Like the rest of Martins horses they are not right.

Heartbreak City should have won by 30L last night not scrambling home. Will be laying Dollar and A Dream aswell.