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Chinese Immigrant Funerary Rites?(mod warning in op)

  • 17-05-2016 1:28am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭


    Where do all the Chinese in Ireland go when they die? I mean by this their actual corpses?

    I am unaware of a Chinese cemetery, funeral or crematorium in Ireland. Are they cremated or sent back to China for burial there?

    Serious question. I have honestly never heard of a Chinese funeral in Ireland and yet their lots of Chinese here.


    Mod- The casual racism stops now. I've deleted the offending posts. The next instance will get a stronger sanction.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,412 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Is there an Irish cemetery in Canada? Lots of Irish there. Surely some must die?

    Odd thread...


  • Site Banned Posts: 109 ✭✭ShiddyArze


    endacl wrote:
    Odd thread...


    Interesting thread...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭FizzleSticks


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,860 ✭✭✭Cake Man


    Not sure where they are buried but one thing is for certain they're a great bunch of lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,904 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Often thought about this myself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    endacl wrote: »

    Odd thread...


    End thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Is this the thread than finally killed off boards???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    The wiki page on chinese funeral rites is less detailed than I expected.


    "If an infant or child dies, no funeral rites are performed either since respect cannot be shown to a younger person. The child is thus buried in silence."



    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_funeral_rituals


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    The wiki page on chinese funeral rites is less detailed than I expected.


    "If an infant or child dies, no funeral rites are performed either since respect cannot be shown to a younger person. The child is thus buried in silence."



    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_funeral_rituals

    Well, that's not disturbing at all.....


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    The wiki page on chinese funeral rites is less detailed than I expected.


    "If an infant or child dies, no funeral rites are performed either since respect cannot be shown to a younger person. The child is thus buried in silence."



    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_funeral_rituals

    It was reading that Wiki page that made me interested in what happens the immigrant ones.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    There's a chinese person buried beside my ma, i dont think they go anywhere different to anyone else, Albert Reynolds is just up the path from her too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,844 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    Dunno about the Chinese but the Greeks dig you up again after a few years...
    Cemeteries in Greek cities are so overcrowded that bodies are often only kept in the ground for three years. Then families have to pay for exhumation - and for the bones to be kept in a building known as an ossuary. But many cannot afford to pay even for this limited degree of dignity in death.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34920068


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Where do all the Chinese in Ireland go when they die? I mean by this their actual corpses?

    I am unaware of a Chinese cemetery, funeral or crematorium in Ireland. Are they cremated or sent back to China for burial there?

    Serious question. I have honestly never heard of a Chinese funeral in Ireland and yet their lots of Chinese here.

    The Glorious Noble Chinese People do not die, but return to their Proud Homeland to continue living in a new form.


    And if you want to disagree, please do so. You will be sent to see how we weren't lying soon thereafter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    Dunno about the Chinese but the Greeks dig you up again after a few years...



    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-34920068

    I was talking to a friend who had relations in the UK, you have the option of renting your plot for X amount of years in some places, after that, the headstone comes down and it gets a new lodger.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 976 ✭✭✭beach_walker


    I saw Hell on Wheels, they ship the bodies back to China in exchange for the workers getting on with things.


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why do they have to have a special ' Chinese' funeral?

    Is there an Irish funeral?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,844 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    I saw Hell on Wheels, they ship the bodies back to China in exchange for the workers getting on with things.


    I bet Noel Curley made a few bob out of that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,065 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    hairyslug wrote: »
    I was talking to a friend who had relations in the UK, you have the option of renting your plot for X amount of years in some places, after that, the headstone comes down and it gets a new lodger.

    Your eloquence knows no bounds :):)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Where do all the Chinese in Ireland go when they die? I mean by this their actual corpses?
    Cremations or burials the same as everyone else, very few would be brought home to China
    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    I am unaware of a Chinese cemetery, funeral or crematorium in Ireland. Are they cremated or sent back to China for burial there?

    Why would they need a Chinese specific crematorium?

    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Serious question. I have honestly never heard of a Chinese funeral in Ireland and yet their lots of Chinese here.


    Do you know any Chinese people living in Ireland?
    If you don't know any Chinese people, why are you surprised you don't hear about their funerals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,776 ✭✭✭Noopti


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Why do they have to have a special ' Chinese' funeral?

    Is there an Irish funeral?

    I would guess the real questions the OP is trying to get an answer for are around Buddhist or Taoist funerary rights, where they take place, where they are cremated/buried etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Its a thread about Chinese people, I guess its time for that boards socially acceptable casual racism to come out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Noopti wrote: »
    I would guess the real questions the OP is trying to get an answer for are around Buddhist or Taoist funerary rights, where they take place, where they are cremated/buried etc.

    Where do Irish buddhists have their funerals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 753 ✭✭✭Timfy


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Why do they have to have a special ' Chinese' funeral?

    Is there an Irish funeral?

    Tae, ham sandwiches and 72 hours of drinking... treasure your heritage.

    No trees were harmed in the posting of this message, however a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    Timfy wrote: »
    Tae, ham sandwiches and 72 hours of drinking... treasure your heritage.

    Do you do the wake in the family home or in the funeral home?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,737 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    They might have a different funeral service but AFAIK they're buried in a non denominational graveyard the same as everyone else is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    There was a Chinese bloke livin in our town for must've been thirty years or so, ran a dry cleaning business, did quite well over the years.

    Anyway, he became so attached to his adopted home, bit never forgetting his roots, when he died he told his family he wanted part of him buried in Oz, and the rest to be buried in China.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,898 ✭✭✭✭Ken.


    Mod- The casual racism stops now. I've deleted the offending posts. The next instance will get a stronger sanction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I suppose most foreigners are shipped home and buried there.
    That's what I'd want for my relative unless they were married with family in the new country.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    Its a thread about Chinese people, I guess its time for that boards socially acceptable casual racism to come out.


    Go away.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,121 ✭✭✭ClovenHoof


    Noopti wrote: »
    I would guess the real questions the OP is trying to get an answer for are around Buddhist or Taoist funerary rights, where they take place, where they are cremated/buried etc.


    Yes that is all I want to know. I should have rephrase it like that. It was just something I wondered as a Chinese business person in town I got to know passed away and I wanted to show my respects, but did not want to put my foot in it before asking when was the funeral.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,158 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Yes that is all I want to know. I should have rephrase it like that. It was just something I wondered as a Chinese business person in town I got to know passed away and I wanted to show my respects, but did not want to put my foot in it before asking when was the funeral.
    Was there a funeral in the end?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Was there a funeral in the end?

    Theres always a funeral at the end....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,861 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    ClovenHoof wrote: »
    Go away.

    Ah now don't be like that.

    Threads about Chinese people always bring out the same tired stereotypes.

    If you consider yourself a friend of this Chinese person then just ask him about the funeral.
    From my experience Chinese people are quite blunt when asking questions of people they consider friends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    If you consider yourself a friend of this Chinese person then just ask him about the funeral.

    He's dead, I don't think he'll be in a position to answer :pac:


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