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Would a 2L diesel cost much more than 1.6L d Galaxy?

  • 16-05-2016 2:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭


    Looking at changing our 1.6L Diesel Ford Galaxy. There are very few on the market 2ndhand, and most are 2L Diesel.

    The road tax is the same, and the costs to change are about the same. We do roughly 15,000 km a year- so not crazy mileage. If I go for the 2litre car, is it going to cost me significantly more in fuel per annum?

    Thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭shietpilot


    I don't think you will see a difference in the real world. The 2.0 will have better power so it won't be loaded as much and will use less fuel. The 1.6 has less power so you need to run it harder to pull the load.

    We've had 2.0 turbo diesels in the family and they used no more or less fuel than my 1.8 turbo diesel on an economical motorway run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭millington


    The 2.0 will be identical to run and far more drivable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Is 15k kms enough to warrant a diesel, could dpf issues be expected ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    _Brian wrote: »
    Is 15k kms enough to warrant a diesel, could dpf issues be expected ??

    It's not enough for one but people are more interested in cheap tax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    There are no petrol galaxys available at all. They don't make them; I know our mileage isn't enough to warrant a diesel car.

    ETA: After 2009 anyway, when the new tax thing came in.


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  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    _Brian wrote: »
    Is 15k kms enough to warrant a diesel, could dpf issues be expected ??

    I don't get this "distance to warrant a diesel". If you only do 5k kms per year it will cost you less in a diesel than in a petrol. Particularly if you are using it for long drives at weekends rather than commuting.

    Once you give the car a good blast every now and then you won't have dpf issues.

    I do about 15k kms per year and can't see myself getting anything but a diesel next. Almost all of them kms are long trips across the country and I'd save considerably in fuel costs driving a diesel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭shietpilot


    I don't get this "distance to warrant a diesel". If you only do 5k kms per year it will cost you less in a diesel than in a petrol. Particularly if you are using it for long drives at weekends rather than commuting.

    Once you give the car a good blast every now and then you won't have dpf issues.

    I do about 15k kms per year and can't see myself getting anything but a diesel next. Almost all of them kms are long trips across the country and I'd save considerably in fuel costs driving a diesel.

    Yeah it's only really an issue if you don't let the car warm up fully and get a blast on the trips. That's also really only an issue if your car has a DPF. Many diesels don't although the years the OP is looking at will have one fitted.

    The legend goes that diesel cars cost more to maintain than petrols but IMO, it's just a myth. Plenty of things to go wrong in petrols too like coil packs. The modern petrols aren't even much different from the diesels considering they are starting to product petrols with turbos as standard.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    Looking at changing our 1.6L Diesel Ford Galaxy. There are very few on the market 2ndhand, and most are 2L Diesel.

    The road tax is the same, and the costs to change are about the same. We do roughly 15,000 km a year- so not crazy mileage. If I go for the 2litre car, is it going to cost me significantly more in fuel per annum?

    Thanks

    There were 1.8, 1.9, and 2.0 diesel Galaxy's, but never a 1.6 diesel surely?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    There were 1.8, 1.9, and 2.0 diesel Galaxy's, but never a 1.6 diesel surely?

    http://www.carzone.ie/search/result/cars/make/ford/model/galaxy/min-year/2011/max-year/2016-162/min-engine-size/min/max-engine-size/1-8

    They are all 1.6 diesels or 2L. They got rid of the 1.6 this year and now have a 2L only. The older ones (pre 2009) were 1.8 /1.9 and they had petrol versions, but now it's just diesel. :)


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    http://www.carzone.ie/search/result/cars/make/ford/model/galaxy/min-year/2011/max-year/2016-162/min-engine-size/min/max-engine-size/1-8

    They are all 1.6 diesels or 2L. They got rid of the 1.6 this year and now have a 2L only. The older ones (pre 2009) were 1.8 /1.9 and they had petrol versions, but now it's just diesel. :)

    You are quite right. Mea maxima culpa.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,522 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    they're still carrying the same sort of weight so od say they'll be similar. the 2.0 might be better mpg at high speeds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    High speeds- you obviously know me *blushes*


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭Pugzilla


    I don't get this "distance to warrant a diesel". If you only do 5k kms per year it will cost you less in a diesel than in a petrol. Particularly if you are using it for long drives at weekends rather than commuting.

    Once you give the car a good blast every now and then you won't have dpf issues.

    I do about 15k kms per year and can't see myself getting anything but a diesel next. Almost all of them kms are long trips across the country and I'd save considerably in fuel costs driving a diesel.

    It applies more to new cars. Since diesels are more expensive you will have to do a significant amount of mileage to offset this vs a petrol engine. They sound like tractors as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,522 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    High speeds- you obviously know me *blushes*
    I mean like over 100kmph


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,364 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    The Galaxy is a big heavy bus. Fill it with bodies and baggage and you will thank yourself later that you went with the 2.0 TDCi instead of the 1.6 TDCi. I'd put money on the 2.0 TDCi having similar if not better fuel consumption given that the larger engine will be under less stress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    OP, buy the big engine. I know that for the 2011 Octavia, the 2.0 diesel is more economical. I know people with the 1.6 diesel and the 2.0 diesel. For day to day driving, the 2.0 is more economical. The 1.6 is more economical on a steady 90kph run on the motorway and that's it. The reason is that the 1.6 has to work much harder to make the same progress that the 2.0 does at its leisure. The 1.6 drinks diesel on a cross country run.

    Now, that's for the Octavia, but the same is probably true for the Galaxy.


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