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price to mow , rake , bale and stack silage ,

  • 14-05-2016 11:09pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭


    Hi I was looking to see what guys are been chaged to mow , rake , bale , stack bales of silage , farmer supplying plastic , thanks . the drawing and stacking by the contractor is a winner , so fast and very little torn bales , job well done , I never want to draw a bale again .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    kerry cow wrote: »
    Hi I was looking to see what guys are been chaged to mow , rake , bale , stack bales of silage , farmer supplying plastic , thanks . the drawing and stacking by the contractor is a winner , so fast and very little torn bales , job well done , I never want to draw a bale again .

    13 here the past couple of years not incl stacking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,111 ✭✭✭cute geoge


    Last year it worked out at €6.50 to bale with fusion
    €2.50 to mow €20/acre
    €1 .00 to rake €10/acre
    €3.00 to draw and stack €45/hour for tractor +trailer 14 bales roughly a load/hour draw 1-2 miles each way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    cute geoge wrote: »
    Last year it worked out at €6.50 to bale with fusion
    €2.50 to mow €20/acre
    €1 .00 to rake €10/acre
    €3.00 to draw and stack €45/hour for tractor +trailer 14 bales roughly a load/hour draw 1-2 miles each way

    That's €13+€3.50 for wrap =€16.50 here it's €11 all in to cut +bale +€2 to draw and stack, Farmer supplying plastic €16.50. Same cost just arrived at in a different way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭50HX


    a new fella started locally last year and to get custom he was 14euro all in

    i felt like some fool the evening i was drawing 200 of them myself that i didn't snap the hand off him for that price after mowing and drawing them

    i haven't heard his price this year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭johndeere3350


    kerry cow wrote: »
    Hi I was looking to see what guys are been chaged to mow , rake , bale , stack bales of silage , farmer supplying plastic , thanks . the drawing and stacking by the contractor is a winner , so fast and very little torn bales , job well done , I never want to draw a bale again .

    Depends on the bale numbers I suppose where are you based?
    There's alot of variation between areas


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    MIKEKC wrote: »
    That's €13+€3.50 for wrap =€16.50 here it's €11 all in to cut +bale +€2 to draw and stack, Farmer supplying plastic €16.50. Same cost just arrived at in a different way

    They're dear hoors of things when you factor all in. Even with a light cut for a pit you will work out cheaper. I hate them with a passion.

    Definitely a market there for a different approach to make bales work cut down on plastic and transport damage.


    I'm also surprised so many dairy farmers taking out paddocks make bales instead of wagon. Time time time drawing in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,841 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Muckit wrote:
    I'm also surprised so many dairy farmers taking out paddocks make bales instead of wagon. Time time time drawing in.


    Control ?? Each slice in the pit would be different and in a good year you'd be opening a pit twice a week...
    I dont get why lads will wrap in the field at all, less hassle to wrap in the yard..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭kerry cow


    Hi ,we have used the same contractor since the seventies , i hate bales but last year I got a different contractor who has the add on of drawing the bales its a god send , never draw a bale again and it not expensive add on once he's got the whole job , these guy who draw are well set up with bale trailers and loaders at both ends , he starts off with the yard loader bringing the first load and empties that trailer and the cycle brings from there with trailers coming and leaving there after .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    I'm €13 a bale to do everything and the farmer supplies the plastic. Aslong as the draw isn't too far


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,384 ✭✭✭kerry cow


    Ya thats what I paid in kerry also , the contractor that offers drawing is well worth it .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,221 ✭✭✭davidk1394


    kerry cow wrote: »
    Ya thats what I paid in kerry also , the contractor that offers drawing is well worth it .

    Once the fella on the loader is well able to handle the bales. Bought a new soft hands bale handler because the wrapper has an end tip kit. Still waiting to try it out this season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 174 ✭✭johndeere3350


    kerry cow wrote: »
    Ya thats what I paid in kerry also , the contractor that offers drawing is well worth it .

    13 euro a bale here too based in kerry also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    I have my bales made for €6-7 a bale :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,434 ✭✭✭fepper


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    I have my bales made for €6-7 a bale :)

    Your a cute h%%r


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Markcheese wrote: »
    Control ?? Each slice in the pit would be different and in a good year you'd be opening a pit twice a week...
    I dont get why lads will wrap in the field at all, less hassle to wrap in the yard..

    You won't find anyone around here to wrap in the yard. I don't think any contractor is still using a separate wrapper tbh. All fusions. A couple of lads who bale a lot of straw have stand alones but never see separate wrappers. Most of them are in places like bunratty castle or Johnstown castle farm musems at this stage aren't they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    Muckit wrote: »
    They're dear hoors of things when you factor all in. Even with a light cut for a pit you will work out cheaper. I hate them with a passion.

    Definitely a market there for a different approach to make bales work cut down on plastic and transport damage.


    I'm also surprised so many dairy farmers taking out paddocks make bales instead of wagon. Time time time drawing in.

    Agree completely very expensive, only make them to get rid of surplus . Some around here gone completely bales, saying they are handy.when asked about price ,again emphasise handy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    kerry cow wrote: »
    Hi ,we have used the same contractor since the seventies , i hate bales but last year I got a different contractor who has the add on of drawing the bales its a god send , never draw a bale again and it not expensive add on once he's got the whole job , these guy who draw are well set up with bale trailers and loaders at both ends , he starts off with the yard loader bringing the first load and empties that trailer and the cycle brings from there with trailers coming and leaving there after .

    Who uses trailers and loaders to get bales out of the field anymore?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,757 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    How much is plastic/bale? I did a bit of wagon silage last year to try it out, definitely cheaper anyway.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Who uses trailers and loaders to get bales out of the field anymore?
    I do and lots of contractors around here do the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,208 ✭✭✭MIKEKC


    blue5000 wrote: »
    How much is plastic/bale? I did a bit of wagon silage last year to try it out, definitely cheaper anyway.

    About €3,50


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    I do and lots of contractors around here do the same.

    I think you'd massively increase your output and cut costs with the likes of a keltec. Keltec generally leaves the yard here within ten minutes of the baler finishing. Bil makes 1400+ bales/year and wouldn't have any other system bringing in bales now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    1400..... I'd only have a tenth of that total and despise opening and messing with them come winter time.

    V inefficient way to make silage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭Miname


    Muckit wrote: »
    1400..... I'd only have a tenth of that total and despise opening and messing with them come winter time.

    V inefficient way to make silage.
    .
    At ten bales to the acre there's only the drawing in of the bales difference in price really. Most lads lifting paddocks would be cutting 4-5 bales and at that pit silage would be a ridiculous price in comparison. I'm mainly pit here with surplus and second cut going into bales but I sometimes question having to close a large block of ground to justify pit when with the flexibility of bales I could take a more staggered approach. This spring especially was a prime example of how bales would work better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Miname wrote: »
    .
    At ten bales to the acre there's only the drawing in of the bales difference in price really. Most lads lifting paddocks would be cutting 4-5 bales and at that pit silage would be a ridiculous price in comparison. I'm mainly pit here with surplus and second cut going into bales but I sometimes question having to close a large block of ground to justify pit when with the flexibility of bales I could take a more staggered approach. This spring especially was a prime example of how bales would work better.

    I pay €120 per acre including vat for pit on an 8 mile draw from an out farm. On a baled price of €14 per bale plus plastic at more like 12-14 bales per acre and having to draw them myself there is no comparison in price.
    I make one cut into the pit and the rest comes from strong paddocks and a bit of a staggered approach made into bales. I feed the bales first and always look forward to the day that I open the pit. Cut off a strip of cover once a week and shear grab it in. Great comfort when you are working during the day and feeding in the dark.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 740 ✭✭✭IH784man


    Markcheese wrote: »
    Control ?? Each slice in the pit would be different and in a good year you'd be opening a pit twice a week...
    I dont get why lads will wrap in the field at all, less hassle to wrap in the yard..
    aslong as your not the man wrapping


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