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Alarm self install advice

  • 12-05-2016 5:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭


    Looking to self install an alarm system (non monitoring) in a two story apartment. Looks like all the wiring is there, apart from an external wire for a bell box, at least I haven't found it yet :(

    Can anybody make a suggestion as to a specific alarm system which will be easy enough to install. I will be looking for at least 6 zones with a mix of PR's and combo shock/contact sensors. I would be purchasing from a Leixlip/Lucan electrical supplier if that is of any significance. Thanks.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Siemens SPC 4320 would be a good choice IMO. Easily programmable from a built in web browser. Free email alerts, free network fail (poll fail) notifications, free remote access via app & web browser & free apps to any number of devices.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie


    Finally got around to buzzing out the wiring and am left with two wires (all are 6 core) that I cannot find the other end of :(

    I have wires for 1 X exit/entry, 1 X SAB, 1 X keypad (brown wires) and all perimiters covered (white wires).

    I have one brown and one white wire unaccounted for.

    I'm guessing one missing wire if for panic alarm but no termination evident in the master bedroom. There is a small hole in the wall about waist height, so if might have been there but fallen through.

    I used a multimeter to trace all the other wires (pair twist on one end).

    Any tips/suggestions for tracing the wayward wires? Thanks.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Possibly spare in the attic or maybe for a phone connection.
    An oscillator would be your best bet after that.
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie


    I have six core wiring on the property. Is there a general colour code that is used?

    I'm thinking:
    red/black - aux power, green/yellow - contacts, blue/white - tamper

    Just wondering if there is a rule of thumb? Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,855 ✭✭✭✭altor


    degsie wrote: »
    I have six core wiring on the property. Is there a general colour code that is used?

    I'm thinking:
    red/black - aux power, green/yellow - contacts, blue/white - tamper

    Just wondering if there is a rule of thumb? Thanks.

    No rule of thumb, just a preference for each installer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie


    More questions, sorry. Is it always necessary to fit a fused connection unit when wiring a control panel to a consumer unit? If so is 3A acceptable?
    Also what rating MCB is generally used in the CU, 6A I'm guessing? Thanks.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    degsie wrote: »
    I have six core wiring on the property. Is there a general colour code that is used?

    I'm thinking:
    red/black - aux power, green/yellow - contacts, blue/white - tamper

    Just wondering if there is a rule of thumb? Thanks.
    Industry norm for DC power would be Red + Black -
    degsie wrote: »
    More questions, sorry. Is it always necessary to fit a fused connection unit when wiring a control panel to a consumer unit? If so is 3A acceptable?
    Also what rating MCB is generally used in the CU, 6A I'm guessing? Thanks.

    3 amp is fine . 6 or 10 amp from the consumer unit is fine.
    Remember you must use q registered electrician to connect to the consumer unit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,855 ✭✭✭✭altor


    degsie wrote: »
    More questions, sorry. Is it always necessary to fit a fused connection unit when wiring a control panel to a consumer unit? If so is 3A acceptable?
    Also what rating MCB is generally used in the CU, 6A I'm guessing? Thanks.

    Providing the switch is dedicated to the alarm then you are not required to fit a fused spur.
    6A is usually the norm in this case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie


    Need an opinion please. Going to fit a second keypad in two story duplex appt upper (2 bedroom) floor. Should I fit in hallway or master bedroom? Hallway is covered with pir sensor and bathroom is separate from bedrooms on same floor. Thanks.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Bedroom would be the better option for a couple of reasons.
    In the event of an activation you can see whats activated the system without leaving the room.You would also have the option of full setting the system from inside the room and leave the PiR on if you wanted extra protection.
    The keypad would also give you a built in panic button. Better to have that in the bedroom if its needed.


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