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Best diesel used car to buy?

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  • 08-05-2016 2:16pm
    #1
    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭


    Hi,

    Im looking for a 1.6 - 1.9 Diesel used family car. 2008-2010 reg. Budget about 11k

    Whats the most reliable car to get, that wont give me to much trouble

    Im thinking something along the lines of the Ford Mondeo / focus, Opel Insignia, or similar. Or should I look at the Toyota Avensis 2l D4D?

    Not interested in VW or anything by them, as too much trouble, in my experience.

    Any advice much appreciated.

    thanks
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    JohnBoy26
    Registered Users Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    Corolla/auris 1.4 d4d would be the most reliable I'd say followed by something like an i30/cee'd 1.6 diesel.


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    Corolla/auris 1.4 d4d would be the most reliable I'd say followed by something like an i30/cee'd 1.6 diesel.

    Thanks for that Johnboy26.

    Whats the i30?


    It needs to be at least a 1.6 Diesel , or greater. But i dont want to go too powerful.

    Or should i be looking at honda?


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    OldmanMondeo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    Have a look at some of the Kia / Hyundai if there is anything in the price range. Quite a few of these do not have a DMF fitted OE, that could save you the best part of €1k


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    OldmanMondeo wrote: »
    Quite a few of these do not have a DMF fitted OE"/QUOTE]

    Thanks Oldmanmondeo.

    Excuse my ignorance, . . . but whats a DFM??


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    JohnBoy26
    Registered Users Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    tcow wrote: »
    Thanks for that Johnboy26.

    Whats the i30?


    It needs to be at least a 1.6 Diesel , or greater. But i dont want to go too powerful.

    Or should i be looking at honda?

    Hyundai i30
    http://www.driving.ie/used-cars/Hyundai/i30/1.6-COMFORT/201618243301456/
    media?xwm=y&id=18016819&width=400&height=300

    The Honda civic is a good car too.


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    micknail
    Registered Users Posts: 183 ✭✭micknail


    Check out the Subaru Legacy.

    Pre 2010 have 5 speed box, 6 speed on all newer. http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/Subaru/Legacy-2.0-TD-BOXER-DIESEL-4DR-MODEL---One-Owner--/201114432894601530


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,147 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    micknail wrote: »
    Check out the Subaru Legacy.

    Pre 2010 have 5 speed box, 6 speed on all newer. http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/Subaru/Legacy-2.0-TD-BOXER-DIESEL-4DR-MODEL---One-Owner--/201114432894601530

    I'd have a read of this thread before recommending one of those:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057561330


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    JohnBoy26
    Registered Users Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    micknail wrote: »
    Check out the Subaru Legacy.

    Pre 2010 have 5 speed box, 6 speed on all newer. http://m.carzone.ie/used-cars/Subaru/Legacy-2.0-TD-BOXER-DIESEL-4DR-MODEL---One-Owner--/201114432894601530

    The engine in those is like chocolate


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    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,388 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    Corolla/auris 1.4 d4d would be the most reliable I'd say followed by something like an i30/cee'd 1.6 diesel.

    Good thing about the early i30 (well ours anyway) is that that don't have a DMF or DPF. Think the facelift has both though.


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    Thanks lads for that.


    So no one here rates the diesel mondeo or focus? Or anything else??


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    shietpilot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭shietpilot


    tcow wrote: »
    Thanks lads for that.


    So no one here rates the diesel mondeo or focus? Or anything else??

    The 2008+ 1.8 TDCI Focus / Mondeo has a wet belt which is prone to premature failure which is why they have a fairly bad rep. The belt change is fairly costly as 2 belts need to be changed as opposed to 1 and as far as I know the wet belt is only made by Ford and no aftermarket options are available.

    The 1.6 TDCI lump in the Focus is a PSA unit and also has its own problems.

    The 2.0 TDCI lump has issues with injectors I've heard.

    Actually the 1.6 PSA unit is meant to be fairly good from 2011 onwards when it changed from a 16 valve design to an 8 valve design, not sure if it's out of budget though!


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    or would i be better off go the extra mile and get the Toyota Avensis 2.0 D4D (2008 or 2009 reg)?

    Any known problems with these?

    Its just that i had the 2.0l Passat, and it was noting but trouble. Its completely put me off high powered diesel engines.


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    bazz26
    Registered Users Posts: 51,147 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    A 2.0 litre Passat is high powered now. :pac: :)


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    bazz26 wrote: »
    A 2.0 litre Passat is high powered now. :pac: :)

    I know ya. Ball of rubbish they are


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    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,388 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Must be all that TDI power, putting stress on the components :)
    Torque is cheap but parts are expensive.


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Must be all that TDI power, putting stress on the components :)
    Torque is cheap but parts are expensive.

    Very true. But I take it the 2l avensis is safe enough, is it???


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    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,388 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    It's not indestructible by any means. There's plenty bad ones around.


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    Mc-BigE
    Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Mc-BigE


    i've had 2 (2010 and 2013) 1.6 TDI mark 6 golfs, i've had no problems with both (only silly fuel filter issue cause by me fitting it wrong), i know a lot of people have issues with DPF (diesel particulate filter)
    maybe i've been lucky or have not done enough mileage, i also do around 65kms pretty much every day, maybe this helps the regen of the DPF


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    almostover
    Registered Users Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭almostover


    The 2.0 TDi CR engine is a good lump. Presuming you had a 2.0 TDi PD engine? These are known for oil pump failure and had an inherent design flaw in the oil pumps. The CR engines that came in in around 2009 are very smooth and economical and don't give half as much trouble.


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    tcow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭tcow


    Would the Citroen C5 1.6 Diesel (2010) be any good? Are they known to give trouble??


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    shietpilot
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,881 ✭✭✭shietpilot


    tcow wrote: »
    Would the Citroen C5 1.6 Diesel (2010) be any good? Are they known to give trouble??

    That's the same PSA 1.6 lump like in the Focuses. They are meant to take poor servicing very poorly and the turbo tends to go on them due to oil starvation when the oil feeds get clogged up due to lack of servicing. I would avoid any cars that don't have a service history or a record of a replaced turbo.

    From 2011 onwards they switched to an 8 valve design instead of the 16 valve design and it's meant to be improved.


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