More EU Green FK wittedness.

Grizzly 45

http://www.outfox-world.de/blog/das-unsagliche-ganse-toten.html

An article that shows the utter stupidity of Greens and the EU in a country that by and large prohibits hunting,the Netherlands.Courtsey of the animal rights and a total ban on hunting 15 years ago the Dutch now have an over pouplation of geese,which of course bother the city dwellers and farmers by one eating massive amounts of Dutch crops and depositing the digested end product in Dutch parks and bathing areas.

So 500 thousand geese have to be disposed of.Would they allow relatively humane dispatch by trained hunters?[The Dutch are VERY well trained hunters BTW] God NO!! You couldnt allow that kind of barbarity to happen.Its much more humane to herd up the geese in massive drives around this time of the year awhen they are flightless due to moulting and GAS them with carbon di oxide [C02].:mad:

As geese are very intelligent critters[they pair for life too] this is now being considerd too inhumane to dispatch them like this,so this has got the hunters and animal rights crowd,for once,m on the same side to petition the EU to stop this cull,after all the EU lies to mess about in everything to do with nature like the Swedish wolf cull,where more of our EU tax money went on preserving and relocating wolf packs and prohibiting their culling.

Dutch geese arent that lucky the EU has remained silent on this.
And ,as usual it starts small as this was only to be used at airports like Schipol to prevent geese being a hazard to aircraft and then spread to a general nationwide cull.
So what would you think a progressive eco mad green country like Holland would do with 500k PA worth of healthy ,wild game meat fed on the best veggies they can grow?Reduce,reuse and recycle and feed their street junkies and old folk with free roast goose??And turn the goose down into warm blankets??
Nope theyhave to cremate the lot!As under "EU Directives" this meat was not killed in an approved manner for fowl for human consumption it cant enter the food chain.Killed with a concentrated gas that plants produce and we breathe every second of our lives!:( Cost.appx 100 MILLION PA!

Moral of the story.If you want to preserve nature,feed people,dispatch pest pouplations of game in an efficent and humane manner,and have a much more balanced eco system?Keep the greens and the EU well away from it!!!

goz83

I was sorry to see any green seats in our GE being won. If they ran the place, the world would be fecked in a matter if months. Ass hat policies

Backbarrel

Grizzly,

That is the most fuxked up, disgusting unnatural thing I have ever heard of.

It makes me so mad.

FFS they would rather burn them than let lads shoot them, take them home and cook them..!!

Capercaillie

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Moral of the story.If you want to preserve nature,feed people,dispatch pest pouplations of game in an efficent and humane manner,and have a much more balanced eco system?Keep the greens and the EU well away from it!!!

A nice blanket statement. EU/Greens have many faults, but the only thing preventing the total eradication of nature in Europe/Ireland is EU legislation.

yubabill1

Capercaillie wrote: »

A nice blanket statement. EU/Greens have many faults, but the only thing preventing the total eradication of nature in Europe/Ireland is EU legislation.

Irony is a great thing.

Capercaillie

yubabill1 wrote: »

Irony is a great thing.

Not ironic when it's the truth. Without EU legislation a whole raft of species would be extinct in Ireland.

Jayzesake

Unfortunately, the Greens probably are a bit influenced by animal rights elements. But there is a much wider picture, particularly with regard to climate change and sustainability, that the Greens are the only party to have genuinely understood (as opposed to paying mere lip service). And the only thing that's ironic about the fact that without the habitats directives and other EU legislation this country's wildlife would be in an even worse state than it actually is, is that we promote Ireland inc. on the basis of a non-existant 'green' image.

yubabill1

Capercaillie wrote: »

Not ironic when it's the truth. Without EU legislation a whole raft of species would be extinct in Ireland.

That's not the way your comment read to me.

Jayzesake

Capercaillie wrote: »

Not ironic when it's the truth. Without EU legislation a whole raft of species would be extinct in Ireland.

Ireland ranks 28th out of 28 member states in EU for wildlife protection:

http://www.birdwatchireland.ie/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=2c/O2ihmO00=&tabid=1442

goz83

Jayzesake wrote: »

Ireland ranks 28th out of 28 member states in EU for wildlife protection:

http://www.birdwatchireland.ie/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=2c/O2ihmO00=&tabid=1442

That data is 6 years old. Anything more recent?

Jayzesake

goz83 wrote: »

That data is 6 years old. Anything more recent?

Not in that particular format, but there is nothing whatsoever to suggest that Ireland's status has improved in the last 6 years. In fact, with the formation of the new government, there is actually now not even a department with 'environment' in the title. That, along with other recent developments, suggests that things are instead worsening, and that wildlife conservation is way way down the list of priorities in this country, if it figures at all.

Current trends

Habitats

The majority of Ireland’s most important habitats are reported to be of poor or bad conservation status, including raised and blanket bogs, dune systems, oligotrophic lakes, fens and mires, natural grasslands and woodlands. Only 9 per cent of habitats listed under the Habitats Directive are considered to have favourable status.

http://www.epa.ie/irelandsenvironment/nature/


To point out the realities of the situation should not in any way be seen as an attack on the shooting community. Through controlling the populations of overabundant species that are often highly damaging to ecosystems shooters can and do in many cases play an essential role in protection of our wildlife and natural habitats.

Capercaillie

Jayzesake wrote: »

Not in that particular format, but there is nothing whatsoever to suggest that Ireland's status has improved in the last 6 years. In fact, with the formation of the new government, there is actually now not even a department with 'environment' in the title. That, along with other recent developments, suggests that things are instead worsening, and that wildlife conservation is way way down the list of priorities in this country, if it figures at all.



http://www.epa.ie/irelandsenvironment/nature/


To point out the realities of the situation should not in any way be seen as an attack on the shooting community. Through controlling the populations of overabundant species that are often highly damaging to ecosystems shooters can and do in many cases play an essential role in protection of our wildlife and natural habitats.

Add to that a raft of NHA raised bogs are set to be de-designated and will be opened up to be ravaged by turfcutters.

Grizzly 45

Im sorry,but anything with GREEN politics is anthema to me .

Every last bit of anti hunting and firearms ownership legislation in the EU parliment at the moment is proposed by Green and Red politicans from every EU country. Any anti hunting or shooting proposals are from Green/Red politicans both here and EU wide [not much of a difference,as I firmly belive the

Greens are best described as "water melons" thin green rind outiside,communist red inside with Fascist black and brown pits]
There is a saying with hunters in Germany."The forest is still greener than the Greens belive it to be."Meaning Hunters were doing the job of eco protection and conservation in Germany along time before some pot smoking hippie came up with this concept of green politics in the 1960s.

Anyone want to see how well Greens can run a town.Go to Brighton/Hove in the UK and ask the residents how it was to live in a 3rd world slum in the UK until Labour[of all parties rescued them]

Ask our fellow Aussie gun owners of what they think of the Green party in Austrailia in conjunction with Adler lever action shotguns and duck hunting protests or having to perform culls on peat species.Dont expect any nice replies.

In this Dutch case,this should have been a perfect case of what the Greens espouse of reuse and recycle.But obviously their own rules and legislation and wolly headness got in the way.

Whatever good they might have done sofar,is heavily outweighrd by their ecofascist and gun banning and anti hunting attitudes and legislation both abroad and here.
Thanks to those muppetts when in power we got the following;Extra tax on our cars especially if it is an older model. A ban on stag hunting,which had to be debated whil the ass was falling out of the banks and economy.Extra tax on coal and heating oil.Anothr clusterfuk of where to put a incinerator in Dublin of which us the tax payers footed the bill yet again.
So sorry if I am a tad biased against them but its kind of natural if you are a hunter and gunowner to look at anything they espouse with a jaundiced and wary eye.

goz83

It's often government involvement that kills things. I honestly can't believe we are last on the list though in reality.

Capercaillie

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Im sorry,but anything with GREEN politics is anthema to me .

Every last bit of anti hunting and firearms ownership legislation in the EU parliment at the moment is proposed by Green and Red politicans from every EU country. Any anti hunting or shooting proposals are from Green/Red politicans both here and EU wide [not much of a difference,as I firmly belive the

Greens are best described as "water melons" thin green rind outiside,communist red inside with Fascist black and brown pits]
There is a saying with hunters in Germany."The forest is still greener than the Greens belive it to be."Meaning Hunters were doing the job of eco protection and conservation in Germany along time before some pot smoking hippie came up with this concept of green politics in the 1960s.

Anyone want to see how well Greens can run a town.Go to Brighton/Hove in the UK and ask the residents how it was to live in a 3rd world slum in the UK until Labour[of all parties rescued them]

Ask our fellow Aussie gun owners of what they think of the Green party in Austrailia in conjunction with Adler lever action shotguns and duck hunting protests or having to perform culls on peat species.Dont expect any nice replies.

In this Dutch case,this should have been a perfect case of what the Greens espouse of reuse and recycle.But obviously their own rules and legislation and wolly headness got in the way.

Whatever good they might have done sofar,is heavily outweighrd by their ecofascist and gun banning and anti hunting attitudes and legislation both abroad and here.
Thanks to those muppetts when in power we got the following;Extra tax on our cars especially if it is an older model. A ban on stag hunting,which had to be debated whil the ass was falling out of the banks and economy.Extra tax on coal and heating oil.Anothr clusterfuk of where to put a incinerator in Dublin of which us the tax payers footed the bill yet again.
So sorry if I am a tad biased against them but its kind of natural if you are a hunter and gunowner to look at anything they espouse with a jaundiced and wary eye.

Whatever about the Greens, the present wasters in power propped up by parish pump politicians will destroy the game/wildlife for hunters in this Country!

Grizzly 45

nWhy do you think George Orwell chose the pigs as the leaders in Animal Farm?;)
Just remember one thing about politicans and whatever hue they are.No matter where they are
They are all swine wanting to get their snouts into the trough of public money.
Doesnt matter whether they are red,green,independant,liberal,conservative,rainbow or black.They are all swine at the end of the day.