VW polo, what socket rear drum?

Hey,

Im trying to replace the rear drum brake shoes on my Mk4 polo. I get half way there only see there is some sort of special nut on it.
Does anyone know what socket I need, il order it off ebay if possible, I imagine it will cost a fortune in motor factors.

http://workshop-manuals.com/volkswagen/polo-mk4/brake_systems/brake_brake_mechanics/rear_wheel_drum_brake_repair/rear_wheel_brake_remove_and_install/

its number 11 on the attached diagram I have linked.

Thanks

shietpilot

Looks like a 12 point socket to me.

George Dalton

You don't need to undo that nut when changing the brake shoes.

jca

Just remove screw "8" then give the drum a few taps with a soft mallet and the drum should come off the flange.

Thanks for the help lads. First time changing drum shoes for me, was a bastard of a job cause no good manuals online had to just work it out from videos of other cars.

Took 2 hours to do one , so Il do the other next weekend. Should be alot quicker.

Some difference to the brakes, 10x better and thats only with 1 changed. The old ones looked like they had a good bit left on them aswell but Id say they were the original ones so 14 years old, maybe there is better quality brake surface used on modern ones.

shietpilot

Kenna Gentle Twit wrote: »

Thanks for the help lads. First time changing drum shoes for me, was a bastard of a job cause no good manuals online had to just work it out from videos of other cars.

Took 2 hours to do one , so Il do the other next weekend. Should be alot quicker.

Some difference to the brakes, 10x better and thats only with 1 changed. The old ones looked like they had a good bit left on them aswell but Id say they were the original ones so 14 years old, maybe there is better quality brake surface used on modern ones.

Did you only change 1 corner or did you do both drums on the rear of the car? :eek:

Nekarsulm

The Mk 3 Polo required the centre nut removed, while the Mk4 did not.

George Dalton

They probably just needed to be adjusted.

mickdw

shietpilot wrote: »

Did you only change 1 corner or did you do both drums on the rear of the car? :eek:

Chill. He is doing the other as soon as he gets a chance. I'm sure he will drive with suitable care in the mean time.

jca

shietpilot wrote: »

Did you only change 1 corner or did you do both drums on the rear of the car? :eek:

Did you read the entire post or just the bit you highlighted... I'm sure he'll survive until next weekend.

shietpilot

mickdw wrote: »

Chill. He is doing the other as soon as he gets a chance. I'm sure he will drive with suitable care in the mean time.

jca wrote: »

Did you read the entire post or just the bit you highlighted... I'm sure he'll survive until next weekend.

I'm sure he'll be having the tripod effect under heavy braking. If people think it's important to change suspension parts in pairs, changing braking parts in pairs is even more important.

I'm sure it will be grand but the NCT fails cars for imbalance and that's exactly what he is doing by wearing in the new shoes on one side earlier than the others.

mickdw

shietpilot wrote: »

I'm sure he'll be having the tripod effect under heavy braking. If people think it's important to change suspension parts in pairs, changing braking parts in pairs is even more important.

I'm sure it will be grand but the NCT fails cars for imbalance and that's exactly what he is doing by wearing in the new shoes on one side earlier than the others.

Absolutely important to change both side but he is doing.
What I would do in this case is run in the new shoes on the second side for a week or so after fitting then go back and adjust both sides to get them even.

jca

shietpilot wrote: »

I'm sure he'll be having the tripod effect under heavy braking. If people think it's important to change suspension parts in pairs, changing braking parts in pairs is even more important.

I'm sure it will be grand but the NCT fails cars for imbalance and that's exactly what he is doing by wearing in the new shoes on one side earlier than the others.

Lord grant me strength this bank holiday Tuesday morning...

shietpilot

jca wrote: »

Lord grant me strength this bank holiday Tuesday morning...

Amazing argument from your side today

biko

Put down the handbags

jca

Jaysus everyone's fierce tetchy here today. Think I'll skive off to the pub for the afternoon.

I only drive the car about 4 miles a day but thanks for letting me know , I'll make sure to take it very handy and do the other side some evening this week.

Why is it so important to do both sides though? I'm curious because both drums should still work fine I would have thought?

mickdw

Kenna Gentle Twit wrote: »

I only drive the car about 4 miles a day but thanks for letting me know , I'll make sure to take it very handy and do the other side some evening this week.

Why is it so important to do both sides though? I'm curious because both drums should still work fine I would have thought?

Well take the case of having one side new and one side old on the front of your car and you try an emergency stop from anything over 70mph, the imbalance will likely spin you around - A well worn set of pads likely braking perfectly and the new ones giving little performance until run in.
Your issue of imbalance is unlikely to cause an issue considering you only drive it a few mins.

Put the other shoe on today. They appear to be self adjusting with a spring pulling a metal wedge down as the pads wear and leave more room so I just fitted them and drove on them presuming they would self adjust. . Doesn't appear to be any other way to adjust them.

Big improvement, delighted. Only took 30 mins this time.

jca

Kenna Gentle Twit wrote: »

Put the other shoe on today. They appear to be self adjusting with a spring pulling a metal wedge down as the pads wear and leave more room so I just fitted them and drove on them presuming they would self adjust. . Doesn't appear to be any other way to adjust them.

Big improvement, delighted. Only took 30 mins this time.

Nice one. Well done.