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Summerfire 2016?

  • 01-05-2016 5:00pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭


    I'm thinking about going to this with my kids, it's in trabolgan holiday village this year, has anyone any experience / opinions of this conference just to give me an idea of what to expect please.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Have you a link? Whose running it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭morebabies


    Have you a link? Whose running it?

    http://www.summerfireconference.com/

    There's information on the website, it presents itself as a non-denominational Christian ministry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭solodeogloria


    morebabies wrote: »
    http://www.summerfireconference.com/

    There's information on the website, it presents itself as a non-denominational Christian ministry.

    Good evening!

    I couldn't vouch for it on the basis of looking at the website.

    One observation - which is more general - is that there's a huge import of evangelical speakers like these into Ireland. This is kind of a shame, because there are lots of small faithful churches across the country. I'd be hopeful that in due course a set of regional gospel partnerships could be formed across the country (there's a number of these in Britain that have been really helpful for encouraging indigenous ministry). I know there is one in Dublin already. I'd also be hopeful that there could be conferences set up for the wider Irish evangelical church that didn't depend on importing huge amounts of speakers.

    Much thanks in the Lord Jesus Christ,
    solodeogloria


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    I've found the connection. As I thought , its the conference run by the Irish Assemblies of God.The main speakers are from time square church were David Wilkerson was the pastor. He authored "The Cross &Switchblade", detailing his work among the gangs of New York.

    They used to hold the conference in Kilrush if memory serves.
    Friends have been to it an enjoyed it.
    As I've never been, I can't comment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    Also consider this, Belfast or Sligo http://www.newwineireland.org/

    The traditional churches are emptying at a rate of knots. I know several churches of different denominations which have hardly anyone going to them. Some fresh strong teaching is needed and these types of events can do it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭solodeogloria


    Good morning!

    Another thought. Assemblies of God are a Pentecostal denomination. It isn't entirely accurate to say that this conference is non-denominational.

    Similarly New Wine came out of the charismatic wing of the Anglican Church.

    These are in a sense both denominational.

    Much thanks in the Lord Jesus Christ,
    solodeogloria


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭Nick Park


    Summer Fire is not run by the Assemblies of God. For many years it has been organised by Cork Church, a non-denominational Pentecostal congregation. People from all kinds of churches go to the event. They have a long standing friendship with the Times Square Church in New York (founded by David Wilkerson, who also founded Teen Challenge).

    I attended a day of last year's event and enjoyed it thoroughly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭morebabies


    Nick Park wrote: »
    Summer Fire is not run by the Assemblies of God. For many years it has been organised by Cork Church, a non-denominational Pentecostal congregation. People from all kinds of churches go to the event. They have a long standing friendship with the Times Square Church in New York (founded by David Wilkerson, who also founded Teen Challenge).

    I attended a day of last year's event and enjoyed it thoroughly.

    Thanks, when you say people from all kinds of churches go, would that include Catholics? I'm Catholic but drawn by the zeal of the group having read their website. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭alma73


    morebabies wrote: »
    Thanks, when you say people from all kinds of churches go, would that include Catholics? I'm Catholic but drawn by the zeal of the group having read their website. Thanks.

    Nothing against the group, but there are hundreds of Catholics groups in Ireland of all types. Just tell me exactly what you are looking for an I can put you in contact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 539 ✭✭✭morebabies


    alma73 wrote: »
    Nothing against the group, but there are hundreds of Catholics groups in Ireland of all types. Just tell me exactly what you are looking for an I can put you in contact.

    Thanks for your reply. Well I like the idea of family friendly faith based activities, in this kind of residential week long setting. Not that I'm drawn to changing denomination, I'm 100% committed to my Catholic faith but this environment of tending to the faith of all family members together appeals to me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭alma73


    morebabies wrote: »
    Thanks for your reply. Well I like the idea of family friendly faith based activities, in this kind of residential week long setting. Not that I'm drawn to changing denomination, I'm 100% committed to my Catholic faith but this environment of tending to the faith of all family members together appeals to me.

    Hi, Catholic Scouts of Europe (based in Dublin) have a lot of activities of kids. The parents meet up with Benedictine who live near Dublin. Its just a traditional Catholic group.

    http://www.netministries.ie do a lot of family activities.

    I have organised some family activities in the past, its not easy because you have kids who want attention and parents who are looking for something more serious/moment of reflection. So the activities are divided out. Thats not to say something can't be organised as a family, its just difficult for small kids and the energy it takes to keeping them engaged (or quiet)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    morebabies wrote: »
    Thanks, when you say people from all kinds of churches go, would that include Catholics? I'm Catholic but drawn by the zeal of the group having read their website. Thanks.

    I'm sure they wouldn't have a problem with you there.I doubt there is anyone checking on what denomination a person is from to gain admittance.:D

    As it happened I went to a similar conference in the mid 80's and was all set to join the Christian Brothers when I left school. No one minded and no one tried to change my mind....God did that Himself!

    I checked out there church website and as it happens I've known one of the pastors there for over 30 years, I hadn't realised he'd moved....a nice guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,288 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    One observation - which is more general - is that there's a huge import of evangelical speakers like these into Ireland. This is kind of a shame, because there are lots of small faithful churches across the country.

    You think that it's a shame that Irish people receive input from people form different countries? Ahh, why????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭solodeogloria


    You think that it's a shame that Irish people receive input from people form different countries? Ahh, why????

    Good evening!

    I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.

    My point is that it'd be great to see more Irish people pastoring Irish evangelical churches and speaking at Irish evangelical conferences as the church grows.

    There's nothing wrong with people coming from elsewhere and speaking. The hope is that evangelicalism in Ireland would be more self sufficient and indigenous ministry would grow.

    I hope that makes things clearer.

    Much thanks in the Lord Jesus Christ,
    solodeogloria


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    Good evening!

    I think you've got the wrong end of the stick.

    My point is that it'd be great to see more Irish people pastoring Irish evangelical churches and speaking at Irish evangelical conferences as the church grows.

    There's nothing wrong with people coming from elsewhere and speaking. The hope is that evangelicalism in Ireland would be more self sufficient and indigenous ministry would grow.

    I hope that makes things clearer.

    Much thanks in the Lord Jesus Christ,
    solodeogloria

    While I agree ,these things would be good. What happened to "Go into all the world...." ?
    I travel to Portugal and preach in a number of local churches while there. This year we are going on a family holiday after a hiatus of a few years and I'm already booked to preach. I've more of a welcome when abroad that at home!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,739 ✭✭✭solodeogloria


    Good evening!

    I obviously agree with The Great Commission.

    I'm aware of many Irish evangelicals overseas in ministry and I'm thankful to the Lord for them all. I do naturally care for Irish evangelicalism to be indigenous and multicultural.

    It's a case of balance that has traditionally been quite skewed to a dependency.

    Much thanks in the Lord Jesus Christ,
    solodeogloria


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