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non conforming number plates

  • 29-04-2016 3:47pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭


    Can anyone link the road traffic act that refers to number plates in ireland. Is it illegal to have no spaces as in xxxxxxxx


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    SI 381 of 1992 has the law.

    Has to have a hyphen.
    I think the length of the hyphen was reduced later to allow for 100,000 reg cars


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭rucksack


    my3cents wrote: »
    Thanks saw citizen info missed revenue


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭rucksack


    SI 381 of 1992 has the law.

    Has to have a hyphen.
    I think the length of the hyphen was reduced later to allow for 100,000 reg cars
    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    From http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1992/si/318/made/en/print
    ( d ) the index mark shall be separated from adjoining figures on each side of the index mark by a hyphen with a stroke width of 10 millimetres which shall extend horizontally for a distance of 22 millimetres; the distances between each hyphen and the nearest part of any adjoining letter or figure shall be uniform and shall be not less than 10 millimetres;


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭rucksack


    Are so called german plates legal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭emeldc


    You learn something new every day. My reg is 00 D xx293, with no hyphens. Who enforces it. The NCT have never picked up on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,843 ✭✭✭SarahMollie


    rucksack wrote: »
    Are so called german plates legal?

    In Germany, sure.

    Here, there is one format that is legal. Therefore, anything else is not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    rucksack wrote: »
    Are so called german plates legal?
    Yeah, there's no regulation for the font, so those letters with Gaps
    or the Gaelic G on some Galway playes are legal, as long as the letter width is correct.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,411 ✭✭✭Avada


    emeldc wrote: »
    You learn something new every day. My reg is 00 D xx293, with no hyphens. Who enforces it. The NCT have never picked up on it.

    NCT should enforce it, as should the guards. Doesn't really happen though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    Its one of those things that if you act the maggot if you get stopped and the guards don't have anything else to get you for then they will pick up on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭selous


    My sister failed the NCT last year because the county name wasn't over the Reg, the plate was on it when she bought it, letters and numbers were as they should be (But yet you can pass if you have buggered shocks once all 4 are equally buggered)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,502 ✭✭✭woejus


    http://www.revenue.ie/en/tax/vrt/lea...on-plates.html

    The Registration Plate formats above do not apply to vehicles registered prior to 1 January, 1993.

    So if you see an old car, if it has ZV plates or 85 D 1200xx stupid plates, they can be whatever way was legal then. Same goes for seatbelts etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,120 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    rucksack wrote: »
    Are so called german plates legal?

    The broken 0 and 9 do not sufficiently resemble the specs for starters. Many other letters do not meet the stroke width rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    I was astonished when I first saw the regulations concerning the requirements for reg plates on the NCT website when I failed an NCT for incorrect plates. I'd imported a car from the UK and had ordered the plates online from NI and in the process had availed of the option to add a discrete little addition of the name of the club I supported added on. You would never notice it unless you were up really close.
    I questioned it with the guy at the time and pointed out that it hadn't been snagged on the previous NCT but he couldn't do anything about it then. As I was leaving he spoke to me and said many people have a second set of plates for NCT or if I returned a couple of days later with the offending text covered with Tipp Ex it would pass.
    So every year I would try to remember to do this, Tipp ex on before the NCT, Tipp ex off afterwards, some years I forgot to do this and no one snagged it again....
    I think the real issue is anything that might affect their readability by ANPR systems or speed cameras but the regulations are quite tight...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 127 ✭✭rucksack


    the real issue is that plates are illegal if they have any thing they are not supposed to have


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,171 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Yeah, there's no regulation for the font, so those letters with Gaps
    or the Gaelic G on some Galway playes are legal, as long as the letter width is correct.

    If the faux registration and safety test stickers are included, then they're illegal.

    Same for the many gobsh*tes driving around with a D in the blue country code section!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭magentis


    blackwhite wrote: »
    If the faux registration and safety test stickers are included, then they're illegal.

    Same for the many gobsh*tes driving around with a D in the blue country code section!

    Bugs me when I see that too,but we all know what the D stands for.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    SI 381 of 1992 has the law.

    Has to have a hyphen.
    I think the length of the hyphen was reduced later to allow for 100,000 reg cars

    I've a typo here
    its SI 318/92
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1992/si/318/made/en/print
    si318-92 wrote:
    The identification mark shall appear in black characters and each letter or figure shall have a height of 70 millimetres and a stroke width of 10 millimetres. The total width of the space taken by each letter or figure (other than the letter "I" or the number "1") shall be 36 millimetres. The distances between adjoining letters and adjoining figures shall be uniform and shall be not less than 8 millimetres.
    This does not preclude different fonts - German or Gaelic 'G'


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,764 ✭✭✭my3cents


    I've a typo here
    its SI 318/92
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1992/si/318/made/en/print


    This does not preclude different fonts - German or Gaelic 'G'

    Not as easy as it first looks if you do italics I don't think you can fit them into the allotted 36mm space and keep the 10mm line thickness. If you can then your probably OK provided its is OK to use a different font to the examples provided.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,120 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I've a typo here
    its SI 318/92
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1992/si/318/made/en/print


    This does not preclude different fonts - German or Gaelic 'G'

    Until you actually measure them and find they don't meet the requirements


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