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Electric cars main focus for Volkswagen going forward

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    KCross wrote: »
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/electric-cars-main-focus-for-volkswagen-going-forward-731743.html

    Do you believe them or just "smoke" up our a**!... pun intended

    One snippet...
    Mr Mueller said the company would "make electric cars one of Volkswagen's new hallmarks" with 20 new models by 2020.

    All diesel manufacturers know the writing is on the wall. The proposed increments to EURO emissions levels are rapidly reaching the point of being impossible to implement cost effectively. In that regards diesels are dead end technology and I suspect we have about 10 more years in new light vehicles design left.

    I would suspect that as a company very heavily diesel orientated and coupled with their recent debacle , VW are merely stating the blinding obvious.

    Good to see though VAG has an excellent record as a technical innovator and when I was based in Wolfsburg, I was always impressed at the methodical way they went about design and innovation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,283 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    The 20 new models by 2020 seemed like a very specific commitment.
    Will that just be 20 variations of the the Golf or a more widespread rollout of EV across their range, do you think?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    KCross wrote: »
    The 20 new models by 2020 seemed like a very specific commitment.
    Will that just be 20 variations of the the Golf or a more widespread rollout of EV across their range, do you think?

    Vag has a huge common platform , so I expect you'll see models from Audi, seat , skoda in that mix

    The specific " 20" is a bit of smoke though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,283 ✭✭✭✭KCross


    It rhymed well with 2020! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,480 ✭✭✭thierry14


    Hybrid diesels sounds good to me 😀
    15kw battery for the short journeys and a nice tdi for long journeys would be ideal for short term.

    If they could do 100km on electric power it would be a big improvement.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    thierry14 wrote: »
    Hybrid diesels sounds good to me 😀
    15kw battery for the short journeys and a nice tdi for long journeys would be ideal for short term.

    If they could do 100km on electric power it would be a big improvement.

    I know your an agnostic , but the hybrid argument as battery packs grow , is not a sustainable argument , heaving around a flat heavy Li pack , or equally towing around a switched off ICE motor is just adding unnecessary weight and cost.

    Having driven my leaf to approx 6km in the first 4 weeks of ownership , including covering ALL the long journeys I typically did in my ICE , there is only one remaining issue and that is long journeys on a tight time budget, where I'd suggest an ICE has a " small " advantage. The EV wins on everything else.

    So a sales rep pounding the Tarmac of Ireland is not a suitable EV candidate at this point in its evolution

    Almost everyone else is


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    thierry14 wrote: »
    Hybrid diesels sounds good to me 😀
    15kw battery for the short journeys and a nice tdi for long journeys would be ideal for short term.

    If they could do 100km on electric power it would be a big improvement.

    Diesel hybrids won't work, Peugeot tried and failed. The problem is high pollution from a cold engine, diesels run cooler and this isn't a practical solution in hybrids that have to shut off the engine. They are not necessiary either petrol hybrids work just fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,541 ✭✭✭Oafley Jones




  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The question is, how accurate is any article in the Guardian ?

    But it wouldn't surprise me because VW will try it's utmost to influence policies like all E.U car makers have done in the past so that VW and the rest can sell it's ancient diesel crap engines in the E.U because our emissions limits for instance are far higher than that of the U.S, the is the real cancer causing emissions and that that cause air pollution which the U.S focuses on while the E.U concentrates more on Co2 which is no pollutant what so ever as ridiculous as that sounds.

    So what this all means is that VW are trying their best to hold on to the past with ICE technology because that's what makes them money , they'll have to sell electrics and hybrids, plug ins etc in the U.S to meet stricter emissions targets and they can dump their Diesel crap in the E.U instead because there is absolutely no sign of the E.U creating stricter emissions laws, the Germans for instance want to protect their Auto industry rather than their citizens from cancer causing emissions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,702 ✭✭✭✭BoatMad


    Wow mad-lad that's quite a rant

    The German gov commitment to invest 1 billion euros in Ev supports and infrastructure is a direct strike against EVs alright !!


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  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    BoatMad wrote: »
    Wow mad-lad that's quite a rant

    The German gov commitment to invest 1 billion euros in Ev supports and infrastructure is a direct strike against EVs alright !!
    1 Billion to the Germans is nothing. They could do a hell of a lot more.


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