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English comparative

  • 27-04-2016 7:18pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8


    Can someone help me understand how to tackle the comparative in a structured way. I find it hard to relate the question back to the cultural context/ general visions and viewpoint. Any advice for answering it well? Length etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭Leavingcert16


    What my teacher told us to do is have five paragraphs in the cultural context question. Each paragraph is a page. Then she gives us titles to structure each paragraph on such as treatment of women, importance of material wealth, social class, religion, race and power. Then you relate each of these to the question being asked. I haven't done GGVP so I don't know how to structure that. Any questions about cultural context you can ask


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,232 ✭✭✭Bazinga_N


    Lottie16 wrote: »
    Can someone help me understand how to tackle the comparative in a structured way. I find it hard to relate the question back to the cultural context/ general visions and viewpoint. Any advice for answering it well? Length etc.

    Take a look at this post from a few years back:

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=83264147&postcount=2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Lottie16


    Thanks for the help! I was just wondering would ye recommend doing the 70 mark or the 30 40 one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭emersyn


    Lottie16 wrote: »
    Thanks for the help! I was just wondering would ye recommend doing the 70 mark or the 30 40 one

    You should practise both of them and see which one you personally find easier. I usually go for the 30/40 marks one as I find it easier to split questions up into smaller parts rather than one big word-vomit - however it's purely a matter of personal preference. It will also depend on which question looks easier on the day - don't put all your eggs in one basket in case the question that that basket gives you turns out to be horrible and you don't have any practise with the other one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 Rosalind151


    I found it very helpful to make a table. Get your 3 texts on one side of the table and the comparative aspects on the other. e.g. for cultural context you can have role of gender, role of money etc. Repeat it for every comparative mode that is relevant to you. It really helps to structure things. Got this advice from past students who did well


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭MomijiHime


    Sorry but I have to disagree with a previous poster: do not write page long paragraphs (if I'm understanding them right), you'll probably get docked marks on structure.

    Here is how I usually tackle a comparative:

    1. Write out the names and authors of the texts you've studied and state your stance on the question (be careful, sometimes a statement is given. You're responding to the question, not the statement).

    2. Give an outline plan, state your points.

    3. Just start on whatever text.

    4. Next para, compare it to another text AND MAKE SURE TO USE A LINKING DEVICE AT THE START OF EVERY PARA (this is Code C, which they will be looking out for). For example: similarly, in contrast, yano whatever.

    5. Next para do the same thing but comparing your third text.

    6. Repeat steps 3-5 however many times with your different aspects of CC or GV.

    7. In your conclusion, don't just repeat your introduction, try and bring the question further.

    - Refer back to the question in EVERY paragraph.
    - Use quotes throughout.
    - Approx. 5 pages
    - Don't give plot summaries.

    Remember you are being marked on Purpose, Coherence, Language, Mechanics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭TMJM96


    Lottie16 wrote: »
    Thanks for the help! I was just wondering would ye recommend doing the 70 mark or the 30 40 one

    For my LC, our teacher (and others in the school) recommended the 30/40 style question. Obviously if you don't like the question or something to that effect, don't force yourself. Practice both and you'll see what style suits you. I personally preferred the 30/40 split because you did not have to write as much and "waffle" was not required.

    A useful site was leavingcertenglish(dot)net. (I can't post links, I'm a new user, sorry!)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Make sure to base your answer on the question asked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭DublinArnie


    How important are quotes from your texts?

    I've learnt zero quotes from either texts as the teacher said they're unnecessary (????), but I have good knowledge of key events and references.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 140 ✭✭luftmensch


    How important are quotes from your texts?

    I've learnt zero quotes from either texts as the teacher said they're unnecessary (????), but I have good knowledge of key events and references.

    You should have a few quotes here and there, just focus on the really important ones though. And remember you can always paraphrase if you have to.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 Rosalind151


    luftmensch wrote: »
    You should have a few quotes here and there, just focus on the really important ones though. And remember you can always paraphrase if you have to.

    Think you are right, I have like 1-2 per text for comparative. I think they are more important for poetry and single text :)


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