Paid since the start - now what?!??

chazbat1

You have me on Direct Debit and the water tax has been suspended - so what happens now?

 I have a bill due to be taken from my account early May - will it still be taken? your account management page doesn't allow you to change your payment method... i.e. change it to nothing as it has been suspended.

Irish Water: Mairead

Hi chazbat,

Thanks for your query.

There is no change in relation to the liability to pay water charges for our customers. Bills will continue to be issued as per legislation and customers should pay their bills as they are issued. This is a vital part of the funding required for the investment Irish Water needs to make in our infrastructure this year and on an ongoing basis.

However, if you would like to stop your direct debit, we can certainly help. If you PM the following details, we will be able to look into this:

- Name;
- Address;
- Contact number; and
- Confirm if you are the account holder.

Kind regards,
Mairead

FobleAsNuck

contact the bank and have the DD stopped, if you have online banking you can do it from there.
just FYI, you can reverse any DD payment upto 60 days after it occured

boggerman1

I believe on paying for water however I ain't going to be a mug anymore.I am going to ring my bank to cancel the direct debit.do the same and don't depend on Irish water to do it.its farcical and only in Ireland can this farce happen

mcko

Use the money to get a back bone!!!!!!!

Padraig1888

mcko wrote: »

Use the money to get a back bone!!!!!!!

I laughed

hytrogen

Charity starts at the tap haha

Galwayguy35

Irish Water: Mairead wrote: »

Hi chazbat,

Thanks for your query.

There is no change in relation to the liability to pay water charges for our customers. Bills will continue to be issued as per legislation and customers should pay their bills as they are issued. This is a vital part of the funding required for the investment Irish Water needs to make in our infrastructure this year and on an ongoing basis.

However, if you would like to stop your direct debit, we can certainly help. If you PM the following details, we will be able to look into this:

- Name;
- Address;
- Contact number; and
- Confirm if you are the account holder.

Kind regards,
Mairead

Ye need to start organizing giving us our money back I think, we obeyed the law and paid but seeing as it looks like IW is dead we shouldn't be out of pocket.

Superhorse

Can't believe people think they are getting their money back 

Going Forward

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Irish Water: Mairead wrote: »

Hi chazbat,

Thanks for your query.

There is no change in relation to the liability to pay water charges for our customers. Bills will continue to be issued as per legislation and customers should pay their bills as they are issued. This is a vital part of the funding required for the investment Irish Water needs to make in our infrastructure this year and on an ongoing basis.

However, if you would like to stop your direct debit, we can certainly help. If you PM the following details, we will be able to look into this:

- Name;
- Address;
- Contact number; and
- Confirm if you are the account holder.

Kind regards,
Mairead

Ye need to start organizing giving us our money back I think, we obeyed the law and paid but seeing as it looks like IW is dead we shouldn't be out of pocket.

You weren't paying in advance were you?

You got what you paid for.

You've no grounds to seek a refund.

Galwayguy35

Going Forward wrote: »

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Irish Water: Mairead wrote: »

Hi chazbat,

Thanks for your query.

There is no change in relation to the liability to pay water charges for our customers. Bills will continue to be issued as per legislation and customers should pay their bills as they are issued. This is a vital part of the funding required for the investment Irish Water needs to make in our infrastructure this year and on an ongoing basis.

However, if you would like to stop your direct debit, we can certainly help. If you PM the following details, we will be able to look into this:

- Name;
- Address;
- Contact number; and
- Confirm if you are the account holder.

Kind regards,
Mairead

Ye need to start organizing giving us our money back I think, we obeyed the law and paid but seeing as it looks like IW is dead we shouldn't be out of pocket.

You weren't paying in advance were you?

You got what you paid for.

You've no grounds to seek a refund.

I obeyed the law, others didn't so I don't see why we should be out of pocket and others get away scott free.

So yes a refund is very much in order.

mcko

You and the rest of the fools who paid , let it be a lesson, people power works, politicians have no principles and will do anything to get into government, they got scared when the people said no and would abolish anything to get power.

Clonmel1000

So people who obey the law and pay their taxes are fools? Nice logic.

Galwayguy35

Law abiding citizens I think you mean, I've no problem paying for water but I don't think it's fair that the likes of you get away with paying for nothing.

Darksaga87

Called the bank today and had them recall all direct debits for IW and cancelled the DD. 
Feel like a mug succumbing to government threats.

Going Forward

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

I obeyed the law, others didn't so I don't see why we should be out of pocket and others get away scott free.

So yes a refund is very much in order.

See your solicitor.

He'll sort you out. Not.

KoolKid

Can you claim a refund from an company purely on the basis that somebody else didn't pay their bill???
In that case I'll be looking for all my mortgage payments back please. Anyone reckon that argument will work?  

Harry Angstrom

Do Irish Water seriously expect people to continue paying their bills??
I had to check the calendar there, just to make sure it wasn't April 1st again.

KoolKid

Everything this morning suggest water charges are gone. They will be going for every last penny I'd imagine.
Any one who still has a direct debit in place now is crazy.

chazbat1

Use the money to get a back bone - people who paid are mugs....

 My back bone is in tact and I am no mug, I believed and still do that Ireland's water infrastructure needs improving and upgrading and that money wasn't going to come from thousands of band-wagoners marching through Dublin... its going to come from one of two things - a tax or a utility.

 I will stop my direct debit but we will be paying for water again in a year or so just re-wrapped - it is inevitable... people are deluded if they think its going to be free forever... nothing in this world is free.

 the UK pay hundreds a year per household in water charges and there are 10 or so water companies.....

 and the old we "already pay for water" is absolute horse muck - that was an act passed 40 years ago... our economy has gone through cataclysmic change since then... 

Going Forward

chazbat1 wrote: »

Use the money to get a back bone - people who paid are mugs....

 My back bone is in tact and I am no mug, I believed and still do that Ireland's water infrastructure needs improving and upgrading and that money wasn't going to come from thousands of band-wagoners marching through Dublin... its going to come from one of two things - a tax or a utility.

 I will stop my direct debit but we will be paying for water again in a year or so just re-wrapped - it is inevitable... people are deluded if they think its going to be free forever... nothing in this world is free.

 the UK pay hundreds a year per household in water charges and there are 10 or so water companies.....

 and the old we "already pay for water" is absolute horse muck - that was an act passed 40 years ago... our economy has gone through cataclysmic change since then... 

Did you think that paying your bill (which comprised of a discount created by the government bulk purchasing water from IW on behalf of households) amounted to paying for anything other than the cost of collecting your payment?

Going Forward

chazbat1 wrote: »

Use the money to get a back bone - people who paid are mugs....

 My back bone is in tact and I am no mug, I believed and still do that Ireland's water infrastructure needs improving and upgrading and that money wasn't going to come from thousands of band-wagoners marching through Dublin... its going to come from one of two things - a tax or a utility.

 I will stop my direct debit but we will be paying for water again in a year or so just re-wrapped - it is inevitable... people are deluded if they think its going to be free forever... nothing in this world is free.

 the UK pay hundreds a year per household in water charges and there are 10 or so water companies.....

 and the old we "already pay for water" is absolute horse muck - that was an act passed 40 years ago... our economy has gone through cataclysmic change since then... 

Go for it.

Did you seriously think that paying your bill (which comprised of a discount created by the government bulk purchasing water from IW on behalf of households) and potentially receiving a rebate of e100 amounted to paying for anything other than the cost of collecting your payment?

KoolKid

To anyone who thought their payment was contributing to a an improvement in the quality of water /service I'd suggest you do the maths.

Infini

To be honest the whole thing was a mess from the start expecially considering the dodgy setup and other things and the fact that FG were arrogant enough to try and ram it down people's throats after all the other taxes lumped on them. Hope the IW worker's dont get hit too badly though it's not their fault at the end of it all though whatever happens everyone is entitled to kick Phil Hogan at least once up the arse for his shenanigans!

They may charge for water one day but it's certainly not gonna be anytime soon and not till alot of the problems are sorted. This is what happens when you pull a fast one and try too quick to force something in: You get a trainwreck and everyone gets screwed!

Monkeynut

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

So people who obey the law and pay their taxes are fools? Nice logic.

lol, when we had all the money in the world, nobody, i mean nobody thought to spend it on the 100 year old pipes. but when we are bust bring a charge in. mind boggling, people fed the goverment longer by paying.

p.s who said dont pay tax?

its called a protest/boycott to speak up against a law, to consider it being changed. by paying(obeying) you agreed, by not paying you do not agree. if they brought in a law to pay for walking the paths( they need maintanence!!! p.s. consulting) you use everyday and need in your life, would you pay. silly question, i guess you would protect and not obey.....


anyway alls well, ends well, hope you get your money back. dicks trying to screw the ones that actually listened to the crap, shows you how much they care. just so their feck up doesnt look as bad on the balance sheets.

NIMAN

I paid from the start too. Also believe that it was a fair tax and cheap.

However, a few weeks back I cancelled the direct debit on my online banking.

Simply fed up with the nonsense around it all now. I will pay again once it's all sorted out.

charlie14

NIMAN wrote: »

I paid from the start too. Also believe that it was a fair tax and cheap.

However,  a few weeks back I cancelled the direct debit on my online banking.

Simply fed up with the nonsense around it all now. I will pay again once it's all sorted out.

That is something you most likely will never have to worry about

Niemoj

I haven't paid a penny to this shower and I am delighted to see the charges have been suspended for at least 9 months.

It just goes to show that people power honestly does work.

NIMAN

Niemoj wrote: »

I haven't paid a penny to this shower and I am delighted to see the charges have been suspended for at least 9 months.

It just goes to show that people power honestly does work.

It's only temporary.
We will be paying for water again in the not too distant future.

ejabrod

Jesus Christ, to all those who 'believe' that they are so righteous and good for paying this charge, you are either too thick to see what's going on, or choose to ignore the facts.

This IS NOT about water conservation or about paying for a service. This is about moving money around (to keep it off one balance sheet - which the gov't failed the sress test, they couldn't even cook the books properly) and privatisation as well as misrepresentation and misappropriation of public funds. There is/was enough money in this country to repair the water infrastructure and even the health service but due to incompetence (intentional or not) and/or dissimulation, the gov't have failed the people they feigned to represent.


I have no problem in paying taxes (and pay 51% btw) but when my taxes are not used in the way the should be it písses me right off.

If the real intent was conservation, the infrastructure would have been corrected first and then charges introduced. This is also about lining the pockets of a select few. How can you people not see this?

Del2005

charlie14 wrote: »

That is something you most likely will never have to worry about

Unfortunately it's something which always has to be paid for as rain is free but drinking water costs a lot of money and it'll come out of people's pockets one way or the other, it just means that people who waste it are subsidised by the majority like all non consumption based charges.

charlie14

Niemoj wrote: »

I haven't paid a penny to this shower and I am delighted to see the charges have been suspended for at least 9 months.

It just goes to show that people power honestly does work.

It does indeed, and as to the "at least nine months" multiply that by whatever figure you like, because it`s dead and buried and a lot of people around here should recognise that and let it rest in peace

charlie14

Del2005 wrote: »

charlie14 wrote: »

That is something you most likely will never have to worry about

Unfortunately it's something which always has to be paid for as rain is free but drinking water costs a lot of money and it'll come out of people's pockets one way or the other, it just means that people who waste it are subsidised by the majority like all non consumption based charges.

I really wish people like yourself would really look at the realities of Irish Water rather than just post what you have been told by said quango or uninformed journalists.

As a simple rebuttal of  the highlighted in your post, the domestic sector who consume 17% of water were expected to pay 75% of the cost.
 
There were many more shenanigans attached, and if you are seriously interested I am prepared to discuss them with you so that you may have a more balanced view than you appear to have, but I do have the felling that your problems with Irish Water are perhaps more politically based than any interest in facts.
Up to you . 

Mint Sauce

Does this mean I will have to pay back the €100, or will they deduct any unpaid periods from it?

charlie14

Mint Sauce wrote: »

Does this mean I will have to pay back the €100, or will they deduct any unpaid periods from it?

If you recieved the 100 Euro bribe how are they going to deduct anything from it.

AaronF74

I Paid, but I'm going to take IW to court to get my money back. I hear "anybody" can get free legal aid lately....... 

Alf Stewart.

NIMAN wrote: »

Niemoj wrote: »

I haven't paid a penny to this shower and I am delighted to see the charges have been suspended for at least 9 months.

It just goes to show that people power honestly does work.

It's only temporary.
We will be paying for water again in the not too distant future.

And water charges are here to stay, and aren't an election issue.

Two or three generations before any other govt even attempt it, given the omnishambles FG made of this. 

Uncle Ben

Ye may get it back next April following the Dail Vote according to Damian English tonight on Vincent Browne.

nhunter100

chazbat1 wrote:

and the old we "already pay for water" is absolute horse muck - that was an act passed 40 years ago... our economy has gone through cataclysmic change since then...

1997 is not 40 years ago.

nhunter100

AaronF74 wrote:

I Paid, but I'm going to take IW to court to get my money back. I hear "anybody" can get free legal aid lately.......

Why? You got a service you felt was a legal obligation to pay for and you paid.Wish you of luck but you're screwed tbh.

charlie14

AaronF74 wrote: »

I Paid, but I'm going to take IW to court to get my money back. I hear "anybody" can get free legal aid lately....... 

Let us know how you get on. If you win your case I will use it as an example why I should get all the motor tax I have paid back .

If you win your case mine will be a doodle.
Aren`t there loads who don`t paid their motor tax, so if you win your`s it`ll set a prcedence.

I`d take my case first, but if one of us is going to waste or time......... :rolleyes:

KoolKid

I was saying the same thing re my mortgage.
And sure maybe the credit cards as well.
There's lots of people not paying those bills either.
I don't see the logic of how someone elseelse not paying for something should entitle others to a refund.

Going Forward

AaronF74 wrote: »

I Paid, but I'm going to take IW to court to get my money back.

How will that work exactly?

You got what you paid for didn't you?

uck51js9zml2yt

AaronF74 wrote: »

I Paid, but I'm going to take IW to court to get my money back. I hear "anybody" can get free legal aid lately....... 

Not anybody. You need to be,earning 87k to qualify:)