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Slurry seeding

  • 19-04-2016 5:35am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭


    Has anyone on here any experience of using this method to bring some life back into old swards or if it's even worth considering? If so any tips or advice


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Are you saying mixing grass seed with slurry when agitating and spreading, it only works with Italian ryegrass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    Not well up on it , but a Tegasc lad was telling me once to chain Harrow first them spread the seed , he said it was a larger than normal seed and spread a coat of slurry to keep seed down , I didn't follow up on it after , but remember him saying it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Justjens


    Raw slurry is a bit harsh on seed, ideally chain harrow, seed, roll, graze after 3 or 4 weeks and then slurry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,273 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Justjens wrote: »
    Raw slurry is a bit harsh on seed, ideally chain harrow, seed, roll, graze after 3 or 4 weeks and then slurry.


    yep
    Also if you apply slurry on top of seed it attracts the roots up instead of they going down to the soil


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭croot


    I'm going to try this method on two paddocks that are badly poached at the moment


    http://m.independent.ie/business/farming/overseeding-is-one-shortterm-option-to-repair-poached-paddocks-29167641.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 409 ✭✭390kid


    Justjens wrote: »
    Raw slurry is a bit harsh on seed, ideally chain harrow, seed, roll, graze after 3 or 4 weeks and then slurry.

    Would you be stitching that seed in or spreading on the surface?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭9935452


    390kid wrote: »
    Has anyone on here any experience of using this method to bring some life back into old swards or if it's even worth considering? If so any tips or advice

    We did it at one stage and the seeds took fairly well but you need to be putting the slurry out fairly heavy for it to work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    Would it not be better to get a bit of soil on the surface with a power harrow and cover it with soil?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭9935452


    Sam Kade wrote: »
    Would it not be better to get a bit of soil on the surface with a power harrow and cover it with soil?

    quicker turnaround with slurry . the old grass is still growing with it.
    We did it on a field where there was rocks a few inches down.
    Otherwise it would have been ploughed.
    Plus it was an experiment for us


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Justjens


    390kid wrote: »
    Would you be stitching that seed in or spreading on the surface?

    This is my set up, still a bit sticky in places but great drying today so hopefully get the seed in tomorrow or Friday, just need the wind to die down a bit.

    reseed_zpsx7okp2dv.jpg

    reseed2_zpsiyl1te1h.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    Justjens wrote:
    This is my set up, still a bit sticky in places but great drying today so hopefully get the seed in tomorrow or Friday, just need the wind to die down a bit.

    Do you find you get a good take on the grass seed with that set up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Justjens


    Do you find you get a good take on the grass seed with that set up?

    Best success has been in grazing fields, or after silage, essentials are to redden the ground before seeding and then grazing 3 to 4 weeks later with light stock for a short time to give the clover a chance to establish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    Justjens wrote: »
    Best success has been in grazing fields, or after silage, essentials are to redden the ground before seeding and then grazing 3 to 4 weeks later with light stock for a short time to give the clover a chance to establish.
    do you use that harrow to get that much earth like in the photo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    Justjens wrote:
    essentials are to redden the ground before seeding

    Excuse my ignorance but please explain redden the ground?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,835 ✭✭✭9935452


    Excuse my ignorance but please explain redden the ground?

    essentially bringing up topsoil


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    9935452 wrote: »
    essentially bringing up topsoil

    Ah we would say tearing up a good scraw down this neck of the woods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,718 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    keep going wrote: »
    do you use that harrow to get that much earth like in the photo

    I was wondering the same.. how many passes with the harrow to open it up like that.. Nice simple overseed system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    _Brian wrote: »
    I was wondering the same.. how many passes with the harrow to open it up like that.. Nice simple overseed system.

    Lovely simple system, do you give it a light roll after the seed goes out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Justjens


    _Brian wrote: »
    I was wondering the same.. how many passes with the harrow to open it up like that.. Nice simple overseed system.

    The sucklers helped considerably :eek: then I gave it 4 or 5 runs before seeding, and then a light roll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Justjens


    Do you find you get a good take on the grass seed with that set up?


    Just to follow on with this......

    This was about 4 to 5 weeks ago:

    DSC_0039_zpsdkftmgtk.jpg

    DSC_0040_zpsv2kogotf.jpg

    And this was today, the field has had a tight grazing, a topping and a dose of liquid slurry a week ago. This clover cover here is about the average in the field, the barer at the time of seeding the better. Also where there was a good grass cover at time of seeding there is now a noticeable improvement in the amount of clover.

    DSC_0051_zpsornjn3cw.jpg

    DSC_0052_zpsfcg5gmwh.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Nice sward. a lot more use of clovers needed now to keep down fertiliser costs. A few runs of a leveller can also bring up enough soil, wagtail and roll. Little down time.


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