Cork Airport second air bridge

TheFitz13

http://www.eveningecho.ie/cork-news/new-airbridge-installed-cork-airport/1999936/

New air bridge at cork

Locker10a

Waste of space, time and money! Slows down boarding and general turnaround, covered steps at both doors are the best options for efficiency on aircraft turn around.

munchkin_utd

Locker10a wrote: »

Waste of space, time and money! Slows down boarding and general turnaround, covered steps at both doors are the best options for efficiency on aircraft turn around.

theres nothing worse I hate than landing in Dublin or Cork and getting blasted by rain and wind getting off a plane.

Fair enough, 2 sets of steps rather than 1 can increase turnaround, but for long haul turnaround time is not anywhere nearly as tightly calculated as for short haul, and Cork is about to see a new Norwegan link very soon (maybe)

Cookiemunster

munchkin_utd wrote: »

theres nothing worse I hate than landing in Dublin or Cork and getting blasted by rain and wind getting off a plane.

Fair enough, 2 sets of steps rather than 1 can increase turnaround, but for long haul turnaround time is not anywhere nearly as tightly calculated as for short haul, and Cork is about to see a new Norwegan link very soon (maybe)

So wouldn't the current airbridge do then?

paulhardman

Locker10a wrote: »

Waste of space, time and money! Slows down boarding and general turnaround, covered steps at both doors are the best options for efficiency on aircraft turn around.

Maybe. But when you're boarding a plane to AMS in the p*ssing rain at 0530, or getting off at 2330 from LHR into a freezing wind, the airbridge is a pleasure...

IRLConor

Cookiemunster wrote: »

So wouldn't the current airbridge do then?

Not if it is already being used heavily enough that there wouldn't be capacity when it's requested by the airlines who want to use it.

As for the "it's a waste of money" argument, wouldn't Cork Airport be charging for use of the jetbridge? I'm sure they plan to recover the cost of installing it.

LXFlyer

Locker10a wrote: »

Waste of space, time and money! Slows down boarding and general turnaround, covered steps at both doors are the best options for efficiency on aircraft turn around.

Clearly customer experience counts for nothing?

Locker10a

lxflyer wrote: »

Clearly customer experience counts for nothing?

To those working in airline financial performance, things like this are way down the list

LXFlyer

Locker10a wrote: »

To those working in airline financial performance, things like this are way down the list

Well then they need to be reminded of it.

Obviously Ryanair don't worry about it but EI do it at DUB an SNN so why should ORK be any different?

Turnaround times should be adequate to allow it be used as it is.

JCX BXC

From what I've heard, EI have agreed to use both Air bridges in Cork providing it will not delay the aircraft, eg in a 1 hour turnaround its fine, or when the plane lands early. But if its 30mins, then probably not.

Growler!!!

British Airways is a premium airline and operating from a airbridge gate aligns with our business model. - Quote from British airways customers services manager (Ireland and London City) in relation to Dub. Holds true for ORK too now that there is a code share between the two.

JCX BXC

Growler!!! wrote: »

British Airways is a premium airline and operating from a airbridge gate aligns with our business model. - Quote from British airways customers services manager (Ireland and London City) in relation to Dub. Holds true for ORK too now that there is a code share between the two.

So, what you're saying is that because EI is now part of IAG (Albeit not as a premium airline), they will use airbridges?

Growler!!!

Carnacalla wrote: »

So, what your're saying is that because EI is now part of IAG (Albeit not as a premium airline), they will use airbridges?

Nope, you said that! I quoted what the customer services manager said.

JCX BXC

Growler!!! wrote: »

Nope, you said that! I quoted what the customer services manager said.

I know they will use them, I just don't know why!
Its a very unclear statement by the customer services manager.

lfc200

The original airbridge broke down yesterday and couldn't be taken away from the 4pm ORK-LHR flight. Think it took about 20 mins or so to get it moved from the aircraft.

roundymac

Was working fine today. In constance use with EI today. I went to AMS in march, raining very heavy and the incoming flight was late. Rows 1-15 were boarded via the bridge and the rest were sent down to the steps at the rear. Flight pushed back 2 mins ahead of time. So as the man says when there's a will there's a way.

Jamie2k9

Locker10a wrote: »

To those working in airline financial performance, things like this are way down the list

Would expect EI are getting a heavy discount for usage by Cork

British Airways is a premium airline and operating from a airbridge gate aligns with our business model. - Quote from British airways customers services manager (Ireland and London City) in relation to Dub. Holds true for ORK too now that there is a code share between the two.

Well expect late night/early morning flights!

kub

Am i correct in thinking that when that terminal was being constructed that there were supposed to have been 4 airbridges anyway?

I assumed the bean counters decided otherwise.

roundymac

Correct, gates 3,4,5,6. Gates 4,5 now have airbridges.

zone 1

good to see cork on the up for change. so positive news with air bridge been installed looking like new service between cork new york. RYN extra flighs for winter period..

munchkin_utd

Carnacalla wrote: »

From what I've heard, EI have agreed to use both Air bridges in Cork providing it will not delay the aircraft, eg in a 1 hour turnaround its fine, or when the plane lands early. But if its 30mins, then probably not.

makes sense.

its also worth noting, for those who havent bothered looking at it, the turnaround for a lot of flights at Cork is very leisurely to say the least.
i.e. The flight from Amsterdam arrives today at 10.10. The flight from Heathrow arrives at 10:50. The only departures that time of the morning are 11:40 to Heathrow and 12:30 to CDG
You can work it a number of ways, but either your 2 jets have 1 1/2 hours on the tarmac, or even with the London plane returning there, theres still a good 50minutes turnaround which even Lufthansa can manage at Dublin with use of airbridges.

LXFlyer

munchkin_utd wrote: »

makes sense.

its also worth noting, for those who havent bothered looking at it, the turnaround for a lot of flights at Cork is very leisurely to say the least.
i.e. The flight from Amsterdam arrives today at 10.10. The flight from Heathrow arrives at 10:50. The only departures that time of the morning are 11:40 to Heathrow and 12:30 to CDG
You can work it a number of ways, but either your 2 jets have 1 1/2 hours on the tarmac, or even with the London plane returning there, theres still a good 50minutes turnaround which even Lufthansa can manage at Dublin with use of airbridges.

Which was exactly my point above - EI can easily afford to use the airbridges in Cork from a time perspective.

SWISS use airbridges in DUB with a 45 minute turnaround.

embraer170

Ryanair uses airbridges at BCN and other Spanish airports with 35-40 minute turnarounds.

roundymac

If a flight is late they can still use the airbridge, boarding rows 1-15 via the airbridge, the rest down the stairs and out to the back steps. I'v seen it done in Cork recently. They use airbridges in Dublin, are people trying to say that all Dub flights are on time therefore they don't interfere with the turnaround.

Jack1985

About 80% of our routes use airbridges in Aer Lingus, the use of back steps in addition to the airbridge to speed up turnarounds regularly occurs at Dublin and Cork and at our outstations in for example London-Gatwick. Then for example (off the top of my head) in Faro, Frankfurt and Zürich (as of recently) we use remote bus stands which has improved OTP to/from those airports considerably and doesn't do much damage to our reputation from a passengers perspective.

Now the only issue with boarding via both an airbridge and back-steps is lack of manpower. For example in Dublin had we can extra ground staff member to direct passengers to use either the stairs to enter the ramp (for the back stairs) or continue proceeding down the airbridge it wouldn't be an issue, but of course this needed extra manpower is not provided thus when sheep follow sheep... you get someone in 29F at Door 1L and someone in 1D at Door 2L looking at you like you're the reason behind their ignorance not to follow direction.

Having previously worked on the Ramp at Cork Airport, I'm delighted to see the CAA go-ahead with a second airbridge installation, the planning of the (can we still call it new? ) current Terminal allows for extra installations of airbridges in fact a total of 5 can be facilitated with relative ease.

roundymac

Jack1985 wrote: »

About 80% of our routes use airbridges in Aer Lingus, the use of back steps in addition to the airbridge to speed up turnarounds regularly occurs at Dublin and Cork and at our outstations in for example London-Gatwick. Then for example (off the top of my head) in Faro, Frankfurt and Zürich (as of recently) we use remote bus stands which has improved OTP to/from those airports considerably and doesn't do much damage to our reputation from a passengers perspective.

Now the only issue with boarding via both an airbridge and back-steps is lack of manpower. For example in Dublin had we can extra ground staff member to direct passengers to use either the stairs to enter the ramp (for the back stairs) or continue proceeding down the airbridge it wouldn't be an issue, but of course this needed extra manpower is not provided thus when sheep follow sheep... you get someone in 29F at Door 1L and someone in 1D at Door 2L looking at you like you're the reason behind their ignorance not to follow direction.

Having previously worked on the Ramp at Cork Airport, I'm delighted to see the CAA go-ahead with a second airbridge installation, the planning of the (can we still call it new? ) current Terminal allows for extra installations of airbridges in fact a total of 5 can be facilitated with relative ease.

Where will the fifth bridge go? I count only 4 piers.