Best way to get high-pressure shower in 'standard' semi-d?

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Hi there,

I'm looking to replace our existing electric shower. The one that is there at the moment is some basic Triton model but the pressure out of it is truly abysmal.

Installing a new shower is beyond my limited DIY skills so I’ll be working with a reputable tradesman for the job but I want to get a better idea of exactly what I'm asking for first.

So, kind people of Boards.ie Plumbing & Heating forum, what's the best route to getting a good high-pressure shower in the upstairs bathroom of a bog-standard semi-detached house?

Thanks,
Rob

Davy

Can you heat the water with gas/oil etc rather than instant shower?

If so what size is the hot water cylinder? Then you could fit a pump for a proper high pressure shower.

Dtp1979

Natalia Vast Tightrope wrote: »

Hi there,

I'm looking to replace our existing electric shower. The one that is there at the moment is some basic Triton model but the pressure out of it is truly abysmal.

Installing a new shower is beyond my limited DIY skills so I’ll be working with a reputable tradesman for the job but I want to get a better idea of exactly what I'm asking for first.

So, kind people of Boards.ie Plumbing & Heating forum, what's the best route to getting a good high-pressure shower in the upstairs bathroom of a bog-standard semi-detached house?

Thanks,
Rob

You'd need to run a hot supply from the hotpress to the new shower and use the existing cold that's already there. Then fit a pumped electric shower, something like aqualisa pumped shower. Triton do one too, but I can't think of the name. Something like AS2000

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Davy wrote: »

Can you heat the water with gas/oil etc rather than instant shower?

If so what size is the hot water cylinder? Then you could fit a pump for a proper high pressure shower.

I know we can heat it from the gas (no oil here) but I'm not sure about the size of the hot water cylinder. Is that the big cylinder in the hot press or is it up in attic?

Thanks for the pointer!

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Dtp1979 wrote: »

You'd need to run a hot supply from the hotpress to the new shower and use the existing cold that's already there. Then fit a pumped electric shower, something like aqualisa pumped shower. Triton do one too, but I can't think of the name. Something like AS2000

Seems that 'pumped electric' is the phrase I'm after! Thanks for the tip.

Calahonda52

Natalia Vast Tightrope wrote: »

I know we can heat it from the gas (no oil here) but I'm not sure about the size of the hot water cylinder. Is that the big cylinder in the hot press or is it up in attic?

Thanks for the pointer!

Its the hot press one, the attic one is for the mice to swim in:D.

Sleeper12

Natalia Vast Tightrope wrote:

Seems that 'pumped electric' is the phrase I'm after! Thanks for the tip.

A Pumped electric shower heats the water & pumps it out about 3.5 litres per minute. This suits plenty of households but it sounds like you are looking for a power shower. These don't heat the water. They take already heated water from the hot press cylinder & pump it out anywhere between 10 & 20 litres per minute.
You will use as much hot water in a good power shower in 10 or 12 minutes as having a bath. Remember you will have to heat up the water first. Takes about an hour to heat up a tank of water.
I would suggest keeping the electric shower & installing the power shower. This way you can have instant shower if you don't have a tank of hot water

Traditional

do you want a shower like a hotel ? if you do and have good mains pressure or good water capacity in attic , there is another way and the hot water never runs out you can stand under it 24 hours a day .
I have one fitted it myself . let me know and will give further info

Sleeper12

Traditional wrote:

do you want a shower like a hotel ? if you do and have good mains pressure or good water capacity in attic , there is another way and the hot water never runs out you can stand under it 24 hours a day . I have one fitted it myself . let me know and will give further info

How do you heat the water?

Traditional

24 hours hot water all day long , hot water instantly , thats what i have

Traditional

i have a combi boiler 32 kw Ideal boiler , threw out the hot water cylinder , i also have 4 bar pressure in the mains , which is great for showers baths etc , one time a girl from London called the landlord to say when she switched on the boiler she got no hot water !
i was sent down to investigate , it turned out that she was used to a combi boiler and the boiler in the house was a heat only boiler , when i explained that it could take up to 40 min to heat up the water in the hot water cylinder , she said are you mad or something ? if you think im going to waste 40 min of gas , you must be joking !

Calahonda52

Traditional wrote: »

i have a combi boiler 32 kw Ideal boiler , threw out the hot water cylinder , i also have 4 bar pressure in the mains , which is great for showers baths etc , one time a girl from London called the landlord to say when she switched on the boiler she got no hot water !
i was sent down to investigate , it turned out that she was used to a combi boiler and the boiler in the house was a heat only boiler , when i explained that it could take up to 40 min to heat up the water in the hot water cylinder , she said are you mad or something ? if you think im going to waste 40 min of gas , you must be joking !

If living in Ireland, the item in bold, my emphasis, is illegal and will invalidate your house insurance if there is ever an issue.

Traditional

scare mongering again , have the houses in Dublin have toilets connected to the mains and loads of commercials a whole lot more , it seems to be ok though in the uk, germany , and other countries , spain , where is it stated it can affect your insurance .

Wearb

Traditional wrote: »

, where is it stated it can affect your insurance .

In the previous post 😙

Sleeper12

Only on boards do you get people not really sure what they are talking about contradict qualified people who have actually trained and studied the subject.

Traditional

what a lame excuse , still no proof of insurance stipulation , only a long winding excuse.

Dtp1979

Traditional wrote: »

what a lame excuse , still no proof of insurance stipulation , only a long winding excuse.

Relax will ya. It's not their job to prove anything to you.
For what it's worth, ideal are the worst Boiier on the market. Honestly, if a customer bought one, I'd refuse to fit it

wilser

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Relax will ya. It's not their job to prove anything to you.
For what it's worth, ideal are the worst Boiier on the market. Honestly, if a customer bought one, I'd refuse to fit it

Idk a few years ago i would have agreed with you about ideal boilers but they are vastly improved now, so much so that they are the biggest selling boiler in ireland.
Also traditional is circa €2000 not a bit much to increase the pressure on a shower?

Dtp1979

wilser wrote: »

Idk a few years ago i would have agreed with you about ideal boilers but they are vastly improved now, so much so that they are the biggest selling boiler in ireland.
Also traditional is circa €2000 not a bit much to increase the pressure on a shower?

There the most popular boiler in Ireland because they're cheap and guys fitting them love the simplistic approach to commissioning them.......basically turn it on and stick in your analyser and make sure it's ok

Sleeper12

Dtp1979 wrote:

There the most popular boiler in Ireland because they're cheap and guys fitting them love the simplistic approach to commissioning them.......basically turn it on and stick in your analyser and make sure it's ok

Also for a few years they ran a 100 Euro cash back for the installer.This didn't show on the invoice so big incentive there for the installer.