more inconsistant moderating

esforum

biased moderating as per usual.

I am called ignorant twice and apparantly its not an insult:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=99341169&postcount=1158

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=99388170&postcount=24

and told I am talking through my arse:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=99386170&postcount=1221

but yet no action by moderators however these still sit on my case and was deemed completely correct and right:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=98049824&postcount=137

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=99175486#post99175486

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=98667081#post98667081

You will note that in number 1 I was red carded, later retracted after the fact but after the damage was deon. In number 2 I used a very specific word for a specific reason ie. In number 3 I have done exactly what was done in the above 'ignorant' posts.

In regards calling someone a dick. This is why I used that express term:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=98427282&postcount=37 but when reported and told by another mod to shut the **** up and dont bother appealing despite that being the process this thread then told me that using the word 'dick' is fine cause its in the rules:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=98433454

Can we please have some uniformality of how the rules are applied?

The Hill Billy

Are you contesting a card or ban, or do you just wish to raise an issue with moderation?

If it is the latter, let us know & this thread will be moved to Help Desk.

esforum

an overall issue with the infractions I am recieving when the rules arent applied to others and posts that I report.

Whatever area you feel fits

dudara

Please outline if you are appealing a specific infraction or card, and we will deal with it here.

A more general complaint about moderating does not belong in this forum and we will move it elsewhere

esforum

general

esforum

hello? Can I get some feedback in relation to this please? Or at the very least is any action was taken regarding the comments directed towards me?

Spear

Do the AH mods and cmods even know this thread exists?

Edit: I've slightly altered the title to improve its visibility for any passing mods.

The Hill Billy

I'll drop the Soc & Fun CMods a prompt.

Zaph

Hang on a minute, you're giving out about moderation in AH, and yet the two posts you linked to that have cards on them are from Commuting & Transport and Accommodation & Property. Then you start linking to all sorts of stuff in Shooting. What is it exactly you're after here?

esforum

my complaint is the fact that I am getting cards for certain behaviour but when this behaviour is directed at me its considered ok.

The rules on attack the post not the poster are board wide are they not?

In one I get called a dick and then told its ok, then I get a card for using that exact word.

I get a card for calling someone niave then another for using the word arrogant but then in return, insults directed at me get away scott free.

like I said, I want some uniformality in regards the application of the rules

The Hill Billy

A key thing to remember is that each forum has its own charter & tone for what is or is not acceptable.

Also, there's a site guideline about attacking the post, not the poster & I feel that this is what you may be referring to, particularly with the first two links. But the comments made related to your alleged hypocracy rather than your ignorance. As a matter of fact, you were only called a hypocrite in one; the other post referred to the hypocracy of your post.

Classic examples of one post attacking the poster, the other attacking the post. Did you report the offending post?

But, as I mentioned - each forum has its own tone & level of rigidity to the guidelines. This accounts for some of the differences in how the rules & guidelines are applied across the site. You've been on boards.ie for some time now, so I am somewhat surprised that you weren't aware of that.

esforum

The Hill Billy wrote: »

Classic examples of one post attacking the poster, the other attacking the post. Did you report the offending post?

yep and I was told that it was fine and not an insult, which it clearly is

esforum

Right so can I get some clarification, is it ok to call someone a dick?

The Hill Billy

No. That is attacking the poster. As a discussion site we expect members to offer counter arguments to others' posts rather than resort to name-calling.

esforum

Grand, can I have my original complaint about this re-examined then: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=98427282&postcount=37

heres the link again to explain that actually according to Beastie, its ok to call someone a dick: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=98433454

esforum

and also the hypocracy comment again as that has still been allowed to sit there withut sanction

KERSPLAT!

Can we remove After Hours from the title as this is a general modding issue not specific to AH. Cheers

Beasty

esforum wrote: »

heres the link again to explain that actually according to Beastie, its ok to call someone a dick: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=98433454

To be absolutely clear I never said that.

I said it was OK for the mod to describe your behaviour in that way. He said you were "being a dick" - a term that as I have already indicated is actually embedded in the site's FAQs

esforum

Beasty wrote: »

To be absolutely clear I never said that.

I said it was OK for the mod to describe your behaviour in that way. He said you were "being a dick" - a term that as I have already indicated is actually embedded in the site's FAQs

its the same thing beast and changes nothing. I accepted your explanation but clearly others disagree with you as I got cards for the same thing and Hill has just said its an insult.

The Hill Billy

esforum - You are being disingenuous & misrepresenting what I & others are saying. Beasty was very clear on the "Don't be a dick" issue what this was explained to you back in January...

Beasty wrote:

On the point of you being infracted for calling someone naïve - it's a bit strange that you raise that as when I look at your history that card shows up as overturned at the mod's request

I have already addressed the "being a dick" point if you care to re-read my prior post. It's also covered off in the site FAQs

As I have already indicated I have no interest in the underlying topic and certainly would not claim to have any knowledge of the correct terminology.

The thread has been closed and I support that decision as, since you got yourself involved, it had descended with entrenched views from you on one side and regular members of the Shooting Forum community on the other. No formal sanctions have been issued and so far as I am concerned that is the end of the matter.

"You are a dick" = Attacking the poster
"Don't be a dick" = A site ground rule

esforum

The Hill Billy wrote: »

"You are a dick" = Attacking the poster
"Don't be a dick" = A site ground rule

"Stop being a dick" gets me a card:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=99175486&postcount=60

"you're being a dick" here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=98427282&postcount=37

both stating that the OP is currently acting in a dickish manner

The Hill Billy

In the first link, you were carded for back-seat modding.

In the second link a forum moderator referenced the "Don't be a dick" site rule & also provided context in relation to your trolling in the forum.

I'm not wasting any further time on this ping-pong where you provide a link & I explain it/justify the mod action.

I don't see inconsistent moderation. I do see that the "Don't be a dick" rule causes you some issues. Steer clear of referencing it in future, & you won't be carded for misusing it.

esforum

He wasnt acting as a mod, he was posting as a forum user, that was stated at the start. he posted an insult. "you are being a dick"

Im a user, I posted an insult.

You yourself stated "You are a dick" is an insult. It is no different to "You are being a dick". Its the same

All this thread proves is that theres no point in appealing anything, the decisions are never overturned and mods are never wrong.

Tom Dunne

Ok, I think we are done here.

esforum - I am officially putting you on notice. You have come to the attention of a number of mods across a number of forums for nit-picking just like this.

Any more of this time wasting from you across any of the forums and your time on this site will be limited.

I can't make this any clearer. It's not us, it's you.