bone setter

annubis

so had a big pull with a calf there about 5 or 6 weeks ago, anyway calf seemed fine initially but after a couple of weeks she to have trouble walking on one of the back legs, dont know if she got a bang or just related to big pull, couldnt really put it down at all, vets looked at it said looks like hip trouble but couldnt do anything really, anyway confined calf and her mother and she improved to a point where you would hardly notice but still not right, bit of muscle wastage on her back at that side and leg slightly turned in, when she ran you wouldnt really notice at all but when she walked it was more obvious..
anyway got number of bone setter and met him yesterday with calf, said hip not rightly in and reckoned he got it in after a few mins, i think he has as the calf's stance has changed slightly , im hoping anyway
i suppose i was a bit skeptical about it but if its worked now im thinking back to another calf i had a few years back that got ruined with same issue, seemed so simple whatever he did,
just wondering if others have done this and is it usually a success?

lab man

Had a heifer here a couple yrs ago that put out her shoulder , some bones on her fetlock an twisted her knee aswell . Got the vet he said no hope for her but we struggled on ï rang a bone setter for people to kno if he knew of anyone to help her he gave me a number of a fella in Galway he came sorted her she took about 6 mts to come right but she's perfect now an the vet still can't believe it

Kovu

Had two here (cow and heifer) and a weanling at the neighbours yard, all sorted with bone setters. So have plenty of respect for them. More difficult to find these days though, last time I went searching I had to go to Longford to get one, an army chap.

croot

I had a limousin bull calf last year with a broken bone in his shoulder as well as it being dislocated. The vet did what he could but said he was unlikely to improve. A guy in my discussion group gave me the number of a bone setter from Cavan and he came and reset it and after a few weeks the calf improved dramatically. He made a full recovery and I sold him last autumn for €960. It might have cost a few quid but was worth it cause he would probably have had to be put down otherwise. And I hate seeing animals in pain.

pedigree 6

I had to pull a freisan bull calf here a few years ago. It was a tight pull and when leaning on the Jack there was a crack out of his front shoulder. He couldn't put any weight on the front leg. So we brought it to a bone setter in carlow and he grabbed the front leg and popped it back in place and said to leave in a small pen. The calf was fine after.

It would be a good career option for someone. Never short of work human and animal.

Sheep breeder

yes the bone setter can do great work, a few year ago had purchased a ped lim heifer, one day slipped on the trailer ramp and hurt her hip, got the vet to look and she reckoned she had damaged her pelvis and to fatten her, brough her to a bone setter reckoned she had put out her hip,he put it back in in seconds with us pulling the leg on a rope and him using his thumb,
the mate that was with me asked him could he fix ankles from playing football, he fixed the two of us there and then and have not looked back since, he reckoned we both had bones out in the ankle and stated very simple to do.

I said

I'm wincing reading this even the thought of someone cracking their knuckles dents shivers down my spine

annubis

this chap seem to manipulate the outside of hip while rotating the leg with other hand, calf didnt seem to mind in the slightest, then he went to inside of hip and you could see she was feeling that..but then he said it was in, was looking at her this evening, she seems to be ok but id say its bit stiff or something, bound to take a bit of time i guess

lab man

Give a bit of pincillin

Rushy Fields

Hi all,
Can anyone PM me with details of a bone setter. I'm located north east Galway.
Have a mature cow with a hip problem. Shes barely putting weight on it.

Who2

i got a supposedly renowned bone setter in with a weanlings hip. biggest waste of money i ever spent. if shes a cow and there's any condition, hang her up. there's far too much sentimentality going on with farming. the bone setter is going to look for 70-80 quid for something that might work. take a slight hit on the cow and buy in one for a bit along with what she factories out at.

Farmerstatia

Hi all.

Would anyone have a number for a good bone setter..have a pb ch bull 4 yrs old that hurt / fractured his hip in the field. . He is getting up but can't stay up too long..
Any advice greatly appreciated

lab man

Ring do noughts butchers in Gorton they will give u Ger moran number he's around ballinasloe he's good

Hagimalone

Farmerstatia wrote:

Would anyone have a number for a good bone setter..have a pb ch bull 4 yrs old that hurt / fractured his hip in the field. . He is getting up but can't stay up too long.. Any advice greatly appreciated

Where abouts are you

Farmerstatia

Hagimalone wrote: »

Where abouts are you

Roscommon

DaDerv

Bone setting is a joke and any man claiming to be one is a con man. It's not a physically possible thing to do unless something is obviously dislocated.

I had two LM calves which were jacked with identical issues around their hind legs. You could feel the gap between the joint. Vet said they'll come right after a few months and they did. Any man that claims to do something is lying. He's just twisting and squeezing and telling you to do the same but taking 80e for his act!

From a medical standpoint the strength and skill needed to relocate a human shoulder is immense. Let alone a man claiming to put in a cows hip!! Are you mad! If it's a calf, give it small doses of Recocam or some form of pain killer and anti inflammatory. Give it time to heal naturally. Like a human a calves bones grow and joints will come together over time. An older animal if it's in such a bad state, get as much condition on as possible and slaughter.

We live in an age of science. Some claims lads are making are outrageous and flat out impossible.

cj maxx

DaDerv wrote: »

Bone setting is a joke and any man claiming to be one is a con man. It's not a physically possible thing to do unless something is obviously dislocated.

I had two LM calves which were jacked with identical issues around their hind legs. You could feel the gap between the joint. Vet said they'll come right after a few months and they did. Any man that claims to do something is lying. He's just twisting and squeezing and telling you to do the same but taking 80e for his act!

From a medical standpoint the strength and skill needed to relocate a human shoulder is immense. Let alone a man claiming to put in a cows hip!! Are you mad! If it's a calf, give it small doses of Recocam or some form of pain killer and anti inflammatory. Give it time to heal naturally. Like a human a calves bones grow and joints will come together over time. An older animal if it's in such a bad state, get as much condition on as possible and slaughter.

We live in an age of science. Some claims lads are making are outrageous and flat out impossible.

There are spoofers of course but is bone setting much different from a chiropractor?

DaDerv

cjmc wrote:

There are spoofers of course but is bone setting much different from a chiropractor?

It's the exact same. Chiropractic medicine is not a scientific medicine. There is no research done to show its beneficial in any way, in fact the opposite. A recent study in the UK showed that chiropractors do more harm than good and can permanently damage a patient. Death and serious long term injuries are connected to chiropractors but because it's not properly regulated they can be denied.

A chiropractor is not a doctor. They claim to be, but they are not.

kk.man

DaDerv wrote: »

It's the exact same. Chiropractic medicine is not a scientific medicine. There is no research done to show its beneficial in any way, in fact the opposite. A recent study in the UK showed that chiropractors do more harm than good and can permanently damage a patient. Death and serious long term injuries are connected to chiropractors but because it's not properly regulated they can be denied.

A chiropractor is not a doctor. They claim to be, but they are not.

Like last poster state they are spoofers but they are very genuine people too. To prove they are 100%...a famous Carlow Bone Setter has a clinic in Cappa Hospital the Surgeons refer patients to him. What more proof does anyone need.

DaDerv

kk.man wrote:

Like last poster state they are spoofers but they are very genuine people too. To prove they are 100%...a famous Carlow Bone Setter has a clinic in Cappa Hospital the Surgeons refer patients to him. What more proof does anyone need.

Who?

I would have serious concerns for any practicing surgeon who suggests a bone setter. Personally the proof I would need is evidence. There is literally no piece of evidence that can ''prove'' the legitimacy of a bone setter.

What you're dealing with is a placebo effect. I guarantee any bone setter will recommend you return if the pain comes back in a few weeks/months. They haven't fixed anything. More than likely they have exasperated the issue.

I've no issue with anyone going to a bone setter. But I hate the fact that people falsely recommend them as miracle workers. I've been to several and I'm only commenting because it left me in a far worse position than if I had received proper medical advice in the first place.

I also hope you're not referring to Dan O'Neill as the surgeons go to guy. I've been to Danolis stable as a young fella and he is no better than the quack down the road. He just has a bigger reputation.

jd06

kk.man wrote:

Like last poster state they are spoofers but they are very genuine people too. To prove they are 100%...a famous Carlow Bone Setter has a clinic in Cappa Hospital the Surgeons refer patients to him. What more proof does anyone need.

Have been to that man a couple of times over my lifetime
Always done the trick. That's true about cappa every Friday I think.
Iv been under the knife and injections so iv seen the other side too.
Always got great relief from the Carlow man

rangler1

jd06 wrote: »

Have been to that man a couple of times over my lifetime
Always done the trick. That's true about cappa every Friday I think.
Iv been under the knife and injections so iv seen the other side too.
Always got great relief from the Carlow man

That's the main thing, that you get some relief.
Physios have never done anything for me only waste my time and money, however the chiropractor sorts my problems every time. The difference between the two is that the chiro has to be succesful or he won't have an income.

_Brian

kk.man wrote: »

Like last poster state they are spoofers but they are very genuine people too. To prove they are 100%...a famous Carlow Bone Setter has a clinic in Cappa Hospital the Surgeons refer patients to him. What more proof does anyone need.

TBH, this is someone doing manipulations under controlled conditions, it's likely as suggested it's a placebo thing for patients for whom all else has been exhausted and as clinically the surgeons know the details of the joint and client no harm can be done.

My problem is with chiropractic twaddle where they do severe and major manipulations completly blind to the actual consequences. No imaging to the actual condition within the joints or spine. There have been many, many cases recorded where such blind manipulating has caused permanent injury, stroke and death.
As for bone setters, I've no experience but my opinion is it's mumbo jumbo similar to the cure of bleeding or cure of toothache, a guy on the end of the phone doing a blessing is just wasting everyone's time - and of course money !

pedigree 6

We had a calf here put out it's front shoulder when we were jacking it.
It couldn't put no weight at all on the leg and was just dragging it around.
We were very sceptical too and heard the stories too.

But we had nothing to lose so we brought it up to Carlow.
Five seconds and he had the shoulder back in place and the calf was able to put weight on it.

I'm not sure if anyone here watches the EMT's on Bondi Rescue but it's no different to putting someone's knee back in.

I'm not sure how you're equating it to "faith healing" Brian?