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Burnt looking grass

  • 11-04-2016 10:01am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭


    Question , ploughed field last year , field went well last year , got light coat of slurry in the dry spell , it's in 3 sections and one of them is looking very brown looking , is it the weather , and ground needing fertiliser to drive it on , and the recent bad weather affected it thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    Question , ploughed field last year , field went well last year , got light coat of slurry in the dry spell , it's in 3 sections and one of them is looking very brown looking , is it the weather , and ground needing fertiliser to drive it on , and the recent bad weather affected it thanks

    Did you get a soil test done last year? Was the P & K corrected as per test?

    I have a field, reseeded last year, and it looks very yellow and hungry, and the grass poor... Even though I was very pleased with it last Autumn, and even over the winter it looked all right...

    But a soil test told me it was very low in P, I'd say this plus the weather is my problem. Maybe something similar for you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Re seeds will need fertiliser to keep performing and last otherwise the new grasses will eventually die out and you'll be left with old or weed grasses in the sward. I'd say 2 bags of 10 10 20 or 18 6 12 would help it, one coat of slurry wouldn't do. Have u grazed it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    Has it been grazed yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 848 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    No it hasn't been grazed yet , it's dry but I don't want to poach it with weather , got it tested WA low in lime , put lime out back end of year , while farm needs lime as I took over not long ago so work in progress , was thinking 2 bags of 18-6-12 alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭jimini0


    Same story here poor growth and dead looking grass. I have a field rented that got reseeded 2 years ago. Was grazed in early November. Its looking yellow/brown. Without doin soil test I'm goin to spread 1.5 bag of granlime. I'm only goin to out saturday. To save time I might mix it 50/50 with 18-16-12 and spread together.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,497 ✭✭✭rangler1


    Did you get a soil test done last year? Was the P & K corrected as per test?

    I have a field, reseeded last year, and it looks very yellow and hungry, and the grass poor... Even though I was very pleased with it last Autumn, and even over the winter it looked all right...

    But a soil test told me it was very low in P, I'd say this plus the weather is my problem. Maybe something similar for you?

    Did you plough it or direct seed it, a lot of good soil goes down with the ploughing and take a couple years to come back up, so you're depending on what fertiliser you spread.......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    rangler1 wrote: »
    Did you plough it or direct seed it, a lot of good soil goes down with the ploughing and take a couple years to come back up, so you're depending on what fertiliser you spread.......

    'Twas reclaimed ground...

    So cleared with a digger, then power harrowed then reseeded with a one pass... I must stick up some pics...
    I think it's just hungry...

    Our ground here would be low in P anyways, whatever is in it... Or lacking in it I suppose..,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    Once its grazed off and fert out on it will get going again. Grass is sitting dormant needs to be grazed once wether allows to encouage tillering of the grass plant


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Could be soil structure issues...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,237 ✭✭✭Username John


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Could be soil structure issues...

    Go on..

    I think I have such issue in me lawn - how do I fix em? (Without heavy machinery if you have such a solution) ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Go on..

    I think I have such issue in me lawn - how do I fix em? (Without heavy machinery if you have such a solution) ;)

    I'd say what dawggone means is it could be compaction, waterlogging esp on reclaimed land or just that it's new ground and needs feeding or could be all three.

    When it's dry enough graze it and spread fert with n,p,k + sulphar.

    To john aerate your lawn with a fork and spread same fert as above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 Cistern


    Go on..

    I think I have such issue in me lawn - how do I fix em? (Without heavy machinery if you have such a solution) ;)

    soil structure can be improve by introducing organic matter into a soil such as farm yard manure into the soil this encourage earth worm who mix up the earth. adding lime would also be benefiting to the soil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Dawggone wrote: »
    Could be soil structure issues...

    Agree

    I've seen this in reclaimed and cleared /harrowed / reseeded areas.

    All the mucking around breaks up the soil structure with the result that subsoil/ poor soils/heavy mineral layers get dragged into the top layer. Capillary action of these soils also tends to be poor in my experience. Time will resolve most of these issues but it does mean that grass roots will struggle to draw on avaiable nutrients (and hence sometimes higher fertiliser requirements) resulting in burnt looking grass with poor growth.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    Go on..

    I think I have such issue in me lawn - how do I fix em? (Without heavy machinery if you have such a solution) ;)

    Aerate the land and feed it with fym that includes a good bit of straw.
    A slow enough process...
    The objective is to use roots and worms to repair soil structure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    what exactly is in pasture sward? i am spreading it on reseeded ground this year it was reseeded 3 years ago, never gets slurry


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    what exactly is in pasture sward? i am spreading it on reseeded ground this year it was reseeded 3 years ago, never gets slurry

    27-2.5-5 Npk. Imo it's fine if your ph, p and k are correct. Other than that there's not much along with N in it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    got the field tested last autumn it was low in lime ph and p and k so thats why im going with pasture sward insted of nitrogen straght, got 1.5 ton of lime/acre in november


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    got the field tested last autumn it was low in lime ph and p and k so thats why im going with pasture sward insted of nitrogen straght, got 1.5 ton of lime/acre in november

    What were the results Dickie? Not being smart but you'd piss more p & K yourself than what'd be in pasture sward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,985 ✭✭✭Dickie10


    to be honest i got it done with teagasc and i wasnt impressed at all with the service, i had to ring up 3 weeks after handing it in to them to get a result and was told it was still in the advisors office, dunno what an office with 20 degrees of heat does to soil for 3 weeks but id aimagine it might not give a true reading when analysed,

    anyway the result eventually came back but not posted out with a breakdown of the results but over the phone from the advisor, i was dosing cattle or something when he rang and amid the noise i could makee out that i needed about a ton of lime to the acre and i could do with getting cattle slurry on it. so didnt get slurry because its far away from the yard but this summer i hope to get it on.

    i might try Oldcastle labs next time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,766 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Dickie10 wrote: »
    to be honest i got it done with teagasc and i wasnt impressed at all with the service, i had to ring up 3 weeks after handing it in to them to get a result and was told it was still in the advisors office, dunno what an office with 20 degrees of heat does to soil for 3 weeks but id aimagine it might not give a true reading when analysed,

    anyway the result eventually came back but not posted out with a breakdown of the results but over the phone from the advisor, i was dosing cattle or something when he rang and amid the noise i could makee out that i needed about a ton of lime to the acre and i could do with getting cattle slurry on it. so didnt get slurry because its far away from the yard but this summer i hope to get it on.

    i might try Oldcastle labs next time.

    I'd throw a couple of bags of 18 6 12 on it. The extra p&K will pay for itself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,506 ✭✭✭Dawggone


    I'd throw a couple of bags of 18 6 12 on it. The extra p&K will pay for itself.

    Yep. Guaranteed result.


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