Dental implants in Hungary

Mara 123

Would anyone recommend a Dental Practice in Hungary to get a lot of dental implants done? Any advice or details please.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

best to search the forum, this topic has come up a lot in the past (less so these days) and then general consensus is that its not recommended to travel to have advanced dental work. Cost is an issue I appreciate that, however there are a number of clinics offering this level of treatment fees in Ireland where you have some comeback should things go wrong.

Hillmanhunter1

The "general consensus" that fitzgeme refers to is possibly a consensus among Irish dentists to the effect that dental tourism is best avoided.

The Chief Officer of the Dental Council, which is the statutory regulatory body for dentists in Ireland, gives a more balanced view:
"We hear some horror stories about it, but I think the vast majority of people who go abroad for treatment are treated safely and are satisfied with the standard of treatment that they got, and satisfied with the results."

I travelled to Budapest for dental treatment (though not implants) and I am one of the vast majority that Mr O'Flynn refers to.

TitianGerm

Mara 123 wrote: »

Would anyone recommend a Dental Practice in Hungary to get a lot of dental implants done? Any advice or details please.

There is a practice in Carlow run by Hungiaians. They used to arrange for people to travel over to Hungary for the work to be done but have a very well run practice up there now with people travelling from all over Ireland. It's <snip.

My dad had to get a lot of work done for the last two years including implants and it has worked out much cheaper in Carlow than either of the two previous dentist's he went to.

uck51js9zml2yt

Hillmanhunter1 wrote: »

The "general consensus" that fitzgeme refers to is possibly a consensus among Irish dentists to the effect that dental tourism is best avoided.

The Chief Officer of the Dental Council, which is the statutory regulatory body for dentists in Ireland, gives a more balanced view:
"We hear some horror stories about it, but I think the vast majority of people who go abroad for treatment are treated safely and are satisfied with the standard of treatment that they got, and satisfied with the results."

I travelled to Budapest for dental treatment (though not implants) and I am one of the vast majority that Mr O'Flynn refers to.

To be fair hillman, your thread on the mater refers to a instances were treatment failed and you had to go back for it to be redone.
I'm not a dentist.

Saying that my wife has had crowns done at home in Slovakia which have been successful. The difference being that we know the dentist and she's home for a minimum of 6 weeks should any problems occur after treatment.
I've not gone for more than a checkup and clean though he'd like to redo my bridge and crowns .

Big_G

Hillmanhunter1 wrote: »

The "general consensus" that fitzgeme refers to is possibly a consensus among Irish dentists to the effect that dental tourism is best avoided.

The Chief Officer of the Dental Council, which is the statutory regulatory body for dentists in Ireland, gives a more balanced view:
"We hear some horror stories about it, but I think the vast majority of people who go abroad for treatment are treated safely and are satisfied with the standard of treatment that they got, and satisfied with the results."

I travelled to Budapest for dental treatment (though not implants) and I am one of the vast majority that Mr O'Flynn refers to.

Any link to where you got that quotation? If he did say it, I would counter, with respect, that he is not a dentist. Also the Irish Dental Association is collecting data about dental treatment abroad that may be sufficient to publish in the future.

Hillman, no Irish dentist has ever said that it is impossible to get good treatment abroad. The message that we are trying to get across is that we feel it is less likely, for lots of reasons, to receive optimal treatment abroad. On the balance of risk, it would therefore be unprofessional of us to recommend travelling abroad for treatment.

Esel

One can travel abroad without leaving the island.

Just saying.

Tar.Aldarion

As long as you check out their old handiwork beforehand it should be fine. Unless there is anything else to look out for?

Hillmanhunter1

Big_G wrote: »

Any link to where you got that quotation?

http://www.rte.ie/tv/theconsumershow/dentaltourism.html

Hillmanhunter1

Anna Mango Horseshoe wrote: »

To be fair hillman, your thread on the mater refers to a instances were treatment failed and you had to go back for it to be redone.

I'm sorry Anna Mango Horseshoe but this simply isn't true. You have been reading the dentist's opinions only, which most recently amounted to defining the fact that I chose to go for a lighter colour as an "aesthetic failure".

That makes as much sense as describing a decision to get highlights in my hair as an aesthetic failure of my natural colour, and reflects nothing more that a desperation to apply the word "failure" to the treatment I received.

Edward Hopper

Hillmanhunter1 wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/tv/theconsumershow/dentaltourism.html

Wow, reading the price differences little wonder people choose to travel. I only travel as far as the UK so not a big issue if problems arise.

davo10

Hillmanhunter1 wrote: »

I'm sorry tatranska but this simply isn't true. You have been reading the dentist's opinions only, which most recently amounted to defining the fact that I chose to go for a lighter colour as an "aesthetic failure".

That makes as much sense as describing a decision to get highlights in my hair as an aesthetic failure of my natural colour, and reflects nothing more that a desperation to apply the word "failure" to the treatment I received.

Don't start with this s***e again, you posted yourself that your veneers fell off and you had to go back to have them fixed at your cost. Honestly, you post the same crap on every thread, leaving out the most important parts. You posted about the veneers falling off, not the dentists "opinion". That is failure in everyone's book but yours.

Also, that article has a large reference to what happens when things go wrong. And when you quote someone else, get the context right, O'Flynn specifically said that patients are satisfied, he didn't say the treatment is satisfactory.

Also, if so many people are satisfied, why did 2 Hungarian Clinics end up having high profile cases in the Irish High Court recently with the Hungarian Dentists being struck off and a third Clinic also closed its doors without warning leaving patients thousands of Euros out of pocket.

Hilmanhunter, I suspect you are going to hijack this thread again with half truths and omissions. But you already posted all the info about your treatment elsewhere. Why not just let other non dentist posters discuss it without your biased, untruthful posts.

uck51js9zml2yt

davo10 wrote: »

Don't start with this s***e again, you posted yourself that your veneers fell off and you had to go back to have them fixed at your cost. Honestly, you post the same crap on every thread, leaving out the most important parts. You posted about the veneers falling off, not the dentists "opinion". That is failure in everyone's book but yours.

Also, that article has a large reference to what happens when things go wrong. And when you quote someone else, get the context right, O'Flynn specifically said that patients are satisfied, he didn't say the treatment is satisfactory.

Also, if so many people are satisfied, why did 2 Hungarian Clinics end up having high profile cases in the Irish High Court recently with the Hungarian Dentists being struck off and a third Clinic also closed its doors without warning leaving patients thousands of Euros out of pocket.

Hilmanhunter, I suspect you are going to hijack this thread again with half truths and omissions. But you already posted all the info about your treatment elsewhere. Why not just let other non dentist posters discuss it without your biased, untruthful posts.

You beat me to it over the veneers.
To me at least saying most people are satisfied is no different to saying the treatment is satisfactory.
If it wasn't satisfactory they wouldn't be satisfied.

Saying that if it goes wrong its expensive to get fixed with having to go abroad again. At least there is accessible recourse on this island.
I got my dental work done in Belfast 15 years ago at a fraction of down here and its still good.

davo10

Anna Mango Horseshoe wrote: »

You beat me to it over the veneers.
To me at least saying most people are satisfied is no different to saying the treatment is satisfactory.
If it wasn't satisfactory they wouldn't be satisfied.

Not quite, satisfactory to the lay person is something that may look good and be comfortable. But as that particular linked article references, problems could be present underneath and manifest themselves later. There may not have been time to rectify these problems or even check for them before the treatment is completed and you fly home. The illustrious Dr Borbath used to do his consultations and treatment plans in hotel rooms before you would fly over for treatment.

There is good and bad everything everywhere. Do the research, talk to people who have nothing to gain by you going there, and plan for all eventualities in the long term including repeat visits and costs if they are necessary.

Incidentally, the High Court ordered Tibor to appear in front of the Judge to pay redress for his patients, he didn't show up.

Hillmanhunter1

davo10 wrote: »

you posted yourself that your veneers fell off and you had to go back to have them fixed at your cost.

I have no desire to hijack this post and this will be my only post on this thread about my own treatment.

It is true that two veneers came off. Apparently that is not unusual with the type of treatment that I had because the strength of the bite that the patient enjoys with telescopic crowns is much better than with other types of dentures. I'm not a dentist, but it only took me about 30 seconds to find this study which seems to suggest that veneers come off my type of dentures in about 28% of cases. I imaging that applies whether you have your treatment in Dublin or in Budapest:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21054505

Basically, it's a wear and tear risk.

It is not true that I had to go back to Budapest to have them fixed at my own cost. I could have had them fixed locally by a dentures technician (I still had the veneers). I chose to go to Budapest to get a new (lighter coloured) set and while I was there the dentist in Budapest fixed my old dentures for free.

davo10

Hillmanhunter1 wrote: »

I have no desire to hijack this post and this will be my only post on this thread about my own treatment.

It is true that two veneers came off. Apparently that is not unusual with the type of treatment that I had because the strength of the bite that the patient enjoys with telescopic crowns is much better than with other types of dentures. I'm not a dentist, but it only took me about 30 seconds to find this study which seems to suggest that veneers come off my type of dentures in about 28% of cases. I imaging that applies whether you have your treatment in Dublin or in Budapest:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21054505

Basically, it's a wear and tear risk.

It is not true that I had to go back to Budapest to have them fixed at my own cost. I could have had them fixed locally by a dentures technician (I still had the veneers). I chose to go to Budapest to get a new (lighter coloured) set and while I was there the dentist in Budapest fixed my old dentures for free.

It really is unusual, I don't care how many studies you find, if the bite is strong the prosthesis is designed to take this into account. So now you are back tracking, marvellous.

davo10

Hillmanhunter1 wrote: »

I have no desire to hijack this post and this will be my only post on this thread about my own treatment.

It is true that two veneers came off. Apparently that is not unusual with the type of treatment that I had because the strength of the bite that the patient enjoys with telescopic crowns is much better than with other types of dentures. I'm not a dentist, but it only took me about 30 seconds to find this study which seems to suggest that veneers come off my type of dentures in about 28% of cases. I imaging that applies whether you have your treatment in Dublin or in Budapest:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21054505

Basically, it's a wear and tear risk.

It is not true that I had to go back to Budapest to have them fixed at my own cost. I could have had them fixed locally by a dentures technician (I still had the veneers). I chose to go to Budapest to get a new (lighter coloured) set and while I was there the dentist in Budapest fixed my old dentures for free.

It really is unusual, I don't care how many studies you find, if the bite is strong the prosthesis is designed to take this into account. It was so easy to fix and replace, that you decided to travel back to Hungary to have it done? You are a pure bluffer.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

And with that, lets lock this up cause its going nowhere. Sometimes to person that best makes you point for you is somebody trying to do the opposite. OP no ammount of research will protect you. You are not in a position to "check out" their work as clinics will generally only post their best cases, even a broken watch is right twice a day.

Some people I am sure get good treatment, some people do not. To be certain there are risks. I can tell you that advanced dental work is really really hard to get right, and dentists skill and training does not increase inversly proportional to the value of the local economy not directly proportional to their location east of Ireland.

You will get what you pay for, and sometimes you are spending more than your money without realising it. Make a good decision.

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