Passat 2.0 tdi smoking

steveshort

Hi all new guy here,

My wife has a 2007 passat 170 tdi, it has had the balance shafts/oil pump rebuilt, DPF removed and EGR deleted.
All this was done in the last 6 months, recently though the car has become smokey upon start up and if the car sits idling.
Im getting it checked next week but would like some advice before hand if anyone can shed some light on my problem.

thanks

Phil.x

Isn't that what the DPF is for.

selectamatic

What colour is the smoke? And is it only present when the car is cold? Also any smoke during acceleration?

steveshort

The DPF was removed because it got blocked and was causing the car to limp

The smoke is a blueish colour, and is present when the car is cold but also when its warming up, it could still bellow smoke after a 5 or 6 mile run.

Im wondering if the Turbo is letting oil past the seals, it was replaced with a reconditioned unit when the oil pump/balance shafts where done.

Pkiernan

Your modifications are a sign of a complete disrespect.
You're no better than someone who dumps a mattress by the side of the road to avoid paying to take it to the dump.

Hope it costs you buddy!!

steveshort

good man there Pkiernan,

so anyone driving a car without a DPF fitted is the same as a fly tipper?

FortySeven

steveshort wrote: »

good man there Pkiernan,

so anyone driving a car without a DPF fitted is the same as a fly tipper?

Worse. At least a fly tip can be cleaned up.

steveshort

I didn't come hear for a morality lesson, I ask a question about my wife's car,

If you want to troll someone thread then please find someone else to annoy.

selectamatic

Ah jaysus I've seen some posts dished out from the high horse brigade but the two above are in a league of their own :P

Blue ish smoke is a sign of oil burning alright and most likely place is the turbo seals however I wouldn't rush into any major fixes just yet. How bad is the smoke? And is the cars oil level dropping between service intervals? A wee bit of blue smoke from high miler tdi's isn't uncommon on start up. Is the car still running at full power?

Edit: just seen the word "bellow" I'd say ya best bring it to a mechanic for the once over. Get it plugged into a diagnostics unit too just ta see if there's any fault codes present.

steveshort

Thanks selectamatic for your helpful replies

Id not mind getting the Turbo replaced if its the seals, its under warranty

The smoke isnt highly excessive, when its starts first time when cold there single puff of smoke then its mostly clear.

If the car sits idling when warming the smoke slowly builds, but as soon as you drive off again it clears, once the revs increase.

The milage is only 95000 miles,

selectamatic

If the turbo is still under warranty it'd be worth getting the installer to have a look at it for piece of mind. Unless it's whaling out smoke or losing oil I wouldn't worry too much. Keep an eye on the oil level for the next fortnight or so if it drops then further action will be needed as the problem will only get worse however if it stays normal it should be alright

steveshort

Cheers

Its going to the garage on Tuesday to get investigated, ill post back with the verdict

Thanks again

FortySeven

steveshort wrote: »

I didn't come hear for a morality lesson, I ask a question about my wife's car,

If you want to troll someone thread then please find someone else to annoy.

You are belching carcinogenic particles that cause asthma in children because you are too cheap to pay a few hundred for the correct filter. Then you try to take offence at being called out on it?

You're a cheap selfish gob****e. I hope your car gives you trouble daily and costs you thousands to put right.

selectamatic

FortySeven wrote: »

You are belching carcinogenic particles that cause asthma in children because you are too cheap to pay a few hundred for the correct filter. Then you try to take offence at being called out on it?

You're a cheap selfish gob****e. I hope your car gives you trouble daily and costs you thousands to put right.

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FortySeven

selectamatic wrote: »

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Ever seen one dying for the sake of a breath? You'd throw your life savings at them to stop it.

Needles73

Any chance we can get this thread back on track and help the op rather than everyone get judgmental. Regardless what the right and wrongs are of removing dpf or egr can we agree the car would be more environmentally friendly without the blue smoke?

selectamatic

FortySeven wrote: »

Ever seen one dying for the sake of a breath? You'd throw your life savings at them to stop it.

Money would be fcuk all good to them then scan :pac:

JohnBoy26

FortySeven wrote: »

Ever seen one dying for the sake of a breath? You'd throw your life savings at them to stop it.

Do you honestly think a dpf magics away all those toxins?

steveshort

FortySeven wrote: »

You are belching carcinogenic particles that cause asthma in children because you are too cheap to pay a few hundred for the correct filter. Then you try to take offence at being called out on it?

You're a cheap selfish gob****e. I hope your car gives you trouble daily and costs you thousands to put right.

You assume I removed the filter to save money, wrong

The cost of removal v the cost of replacement was less then 200 euro

I removed it because it got blocked, and a new one would get blocked also as our car usage will not allow the car to perform a regeneration.

grogi

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Do you honestly think a dpf magics away all those toxins?

No, just the majority of cancerogenic soot particles.

grogi

steveshort wrote: »

You assume I removed the filter to save money, wrong

The cost of removal v the cost of replacement was less then 200 euro

I removed it because it got blocked, and a new one would get blocked also as our car usage will not allow the car to perform a regeneration.

Why did you buy it then ffs?

steveshort

grogi wrote: »

Why did you buy it then ffs?

Clearly I didn't know that it wouldn't be suitable for our driving circumstances when we bought it.

Now can we keep the thread on topic, I was looking for advise about my car I didn't want to be preached to and be insulted.

Regards

Special Circumstances

Luckily the green party are all the in favour of diesel vehicles with every emission control disabled. .. shur dusnt it deecraaaaash the awful fizzy drink gas dat do be killin de paypul

JohnBoy26

grogi wrote: »

No, just the majority of cancerogenic soot particles.

Where do you think these carcinogenic particles go when a dpf regen takes place?

grogi

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Where do you think these carcinogenic particles go when a dpf regen takes place?

They change to harmless co2

stefanovich

You'll fail the NCT so your temp solution of poisoning the public will be short lived.

Nothing I hate worse than the smell of a smoky diesel.

Needles73

stefanovich wrote: »

You'll fail the NCT so your temp solution of poisoning the public will be short lived.

Nothing I hate worse than the smell of a smoky diesel.

Why will it fail NCT ? I didn't think they check DPF ?

JJJJNR

Car sounds completely normal for a tdi, maybe bring it put for a long Italian tune with a bit of dipthane, is it remapped.

steveshort

JJJJNR wrote: »

Car sounds completely normal for a tdi, maybe bring it put for a long Italian tune with a bit of dipthane, is it remapped.

Hi, Thanks for your input the car hasn't been remapped for extra performance we reckoned 170 bhp was ample, though the ECU was remapped to remove the DPF and disable the EGR.

I put a treatment of dipthane through the car already and I think it helped a little, might try a stronger dose if it.

As regards the NCT , it will pass you are correct Needles.

I spoke with mechanics before the filter was removed and I have been assured that at present the car will pass an NCT as emissions tests are not preformed on Diesel engines only a smoke test and there is no immediate plans for this to change.

gctest50

FortySeven wrote: »

You are belching carcinogenic particles that cause asthma in children because you are too cheap to pay a few hundred for the correct filter. Then you try to take offence at being called out on it?

You're a cheap selfish gob****e. I hope your car gives you trouble daily and costs you thousands to put right.

:eek: any chance of the lottery numbers for the next draw

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057596884

jsd1004

As soon as all diesels are banned from cities the better. It really is a filthy fuel.

0lddog

jsd1004 wrote: »

As soon as all diesels are banned from cities the better. It really is a filthy fuel.

Clean up Dublin ........Close down Dublin Bus ?

Titzon Toast

Some amount of high horses around today, good lord.

Sabre Man

0lddog wrote: »

Clean up Dublin ........Close down Dublin Bus ?

Even China is moving to electric buses.

http://cleantechnica.com/2015/11/26/electric-bus-adoption-taking-off-china/

Special Circumstances

Sabre Man wrote: »

Even China is moving to electric buses.

http://cleantechnica.com/2015/11/26/electric-bus-adoption-taking-off-china/

It'll never catch on. Lol ; -) Ya can't bate a good dirty noisey baysht of sub 2.0 tdi

JohnBoy26

0lddog wrote: »

Clean up Dublin ........Close down Dublin Bus ?

Hydrogen powered buses exist in other countries so surely they can work in Dublin too.

gctest50

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Hydrogen powered buses exist in other countries so surely they can work in Dublin too.

Bushound, powered in part by cow crap :

So if the name of the bus is Bus Hound, why have we put cow print on the front? The new livery reflects the fact that the gas we buy to help run these buses comes from farm waste product... cow poo in other words!