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Are 'head shops' still in Ireland...?

  • 04-04-2016 11:34pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭


    I'm just after watching a Vice doc on youtube called The Hard Lives of Britain's Synthetic Marijuana Addicts which looked at addiction to legal highs (mainly 'spice') from head-shops in Manchester. (Eye opening stuff tbf)

    It's a pretty recent video, uploaded last July; watching it reminded me of the high prevalence of so-called 'head shops' in Ireland a few years ago...at one stage it seemed like a new one opened up every week.

    So, genuine question - Are 'head shops' still in Ireland...?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,277 ✭✭✭DamagedTrax


    if you need a fiddy bag, just say so! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭Rough Sleeper


    To me, getting addicted to Spice is like fixing for worm medicine or jonesing for a hit of anthrax. It's like all the potential negative effects of weed raised to the power of ten, without any of the positives. If your idea of a good buzz is sitting stuck to the couch for five hours, unable to speak, uncomfortably high, and imagining with the most vivid imagery possible what it would be like to be involved a serious car crash, then I suppose it might well be right up your street.

    In answer to your question, there are some grow shops in Ireland, but nowhere (legal) that sells designer drugs.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭bigpink


    Prob be back again dont they just change the recipes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 803 ✭✭✭Rough Sleeper


    bigpink wrote: »
    Prob be back again dont they just change the recipes
    Nah. Most new drugs fall within a few discrete classes (cathinones, phenethylamine and the like) and are covered by analogue laws, and under the Psychoactive substances bill, if you're selling substances of a psychoactive nature, the burden of proof is basically on the seller to show that the goods being sold aren't intended for human consumption. So no more bath salts, plants feeders etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,782 ✭✭✭SmallTeapot


    @Rough sleeper - that's a very informative description - cheers.

    It's scary stuff. I remember when the shops first popped up a few years ago and thinking how could these products be legal. But I guess, that because they were produced at such a fast rate, with little consistency as to what they contained or how they were synthesised.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I'm pretty sure most headshop drugs are now illegal. I don't think any are left, maybe one or two selling paraphernalia.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    I'm just after watching a Vice doc on youtube called The Hard Lives of Britain's Synthetic Marijuana Addicts which looked at addiction to legal highs (mainly 'spice') from head-shops in Manchester. (Eye opening stuff tbf)

    It's a pretty recent video, uploaded last July; watching it reminded me of the high prevalence of so-called 'head shops' in Ireland a few years ago...at one stage it seemed like a new one opened up every week.

    So, genuine question - Are 'head shops' still in Ireland...?

    Thanks to Joe Duffy they are gone. But there's this new thing called the Internet, where the cool kids are scoring their gear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭mud


    I think there's just the paraphernalia shops now OP and I must say I don't miss the availability of that dangerous synthesised sh1t.

    I am partial to weed but stupidly smoked a "joint" of that head-shop-sh1te with a friend when the green was lean and genuinely thought I was going to pass out. Massive panic attack, lots of physical symptoms and the fearful thought that death was walking with me. Not what I expected or wanted.

    There's one shop in Limerick still open but just selling skins and bongs etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,741 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    I'm addicted to 'Spice' bags


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭mud


    Ally Dick wrote: »
    I'm addicted to 'Spice' bags

    Yum! Although my local Chinese seems to have changed their recipe and it isn't half as good now.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,614 ✭✭✭Mozzeltoff


    To me, getting addicted to Spice is like fixing for worm medicine or jonesing for a hit of anthrax. It's like all the potential negative effects of weed raised to the power of ten, without any of the positives. If your idea of a good buzz is sitting stuck to the couch for five hours, unable to speak, uncomfortably high, and imagining with the most vivid imagery possible what it would be like to be involved a serious car crash, then I suppose it might well be right up your street.

    My brother in law and his ex were/are addicted to Spice or what they call "incense". Both used to be able bodied and fit but after three to four years of constantly smoking that **** and you can see it has them destroyed.

    Any spark of life or intelligence in them as being dimmed out. In the last year and a half she's had problems with her health, particularly her stomach. She has no appetite and for a long time was empty retching. She's being to the doctors over it, complaining of pain and sickness. No one knows why but it's clear as day to the rest of us. When they're smoking like it's going out of fashion of course you're going to be sick.

    I don't know what's in it, I don't really want to know but I do know that as bad and as poisonous cigarettes are, that stuff is worse.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 277 ✭✭JackieBauer


    I'm not condoning drug use because anyone who does needs a slap and I don't want a slap.

    I will say this, that Spice stuff was stronger than any "illegal" cannabis I had. Very potent stuff. Anyway, thank god the head shops are gone. Do some travelling, learn a launguage etc. f.uck drugs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭Arsemageddon


    If you can't find head shop Spice then you could try eating ten spice burgers really quickly, you'll be high as a kite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,858 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    To me, getting addicted to Spice is like fixing for worm medicine or jonesing for a hit of anthrax. It's like all the potential negative effects of weed raised to the power of ten, without any of the positives. If your idea of a good buzz is sitting stuck to the couch for five hours, unable to speak, uncomfortably high, and imagining with the most vivid imagery possible what it would be like to be involved a serious car crash, then I suppose it might well be right up your street.

    In answer to your question, there are some grow shops in Ireland, but nowhere (legal) that sells designer drugs.

    Back in the day if I was ever stuck for the real thing I'd buy a bag of that Spice rubbish.

    The main complaint I could make was that it had no effect whatsoever; aside from being a bit of a headache inducer it had no discernable effect on myself, or anyone else that I knew that ever used it. The idea of people getting strung out and messed up because of that stuff is laughable.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 277 ✭✭JackieBauer


    Arghus wrote: »
    Back in the day if I was ever stuck for the real thing I'd buy a bag of that Spice rubbish.

    The main complaint I could make was that it had no effect whatsoever; aside from being a bit of a headache inducer it had no discernable effect on myself, or anyone else that I knew that ever used it. The idea of people getting strung out and messed up because of that stuff is laughable.

    God, you're hard


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,172 ✭✭✭FizzleSticks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,858 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    God, you're hard

    Not particularly; I get a head rush from a cigarette.

    I wasn't even that much of a seasoned smoker of the "real" thing, but I did know when I'd been sold a pup. I've no doubt that Spice was/is full of awful chemicals that have no business being near your lungs, which is reason enough not to bother with it. But getting high off the stuff? Hallucinating? Can't say I experienced any of that. Maybe, at best, I might have felt a slight spaceyness(which could have come from tobacco), with cottonmouth and headache, that didn't last too long. That's my honest opinion of the stuff from when I tried it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,273 ✭✭✭flas


    Arghus wrote: »
    Back in the day if I was ever stuck for the real thing I'd buy a bag of that Spice rubbish.

    The main complaint I could make was that it had no effect whatsoever; aside from being a bit of a headache inducer it had no discernable effect on myself, or anyone else that I knew that ever used it. The idea of people getting strung out and messed up because of that stuff is laughable.

    This, tried it a few times, never really did anything, stopped using it but I suppose every drug reacts differently with every person!

    A big problem now is the powder stuff that used to be legal,the snow blow and meow meow(what stupid fcukin names) that people used to sniff, now it's being injected and is causing all out havoc, people getting out of it for days and then an absolutely atrocious come down,the high being like a total psychological break down!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 277 ✭✭JackieBauer


    Arghus wrote: »
    Not particularly. I get a head rush from a cigarette.

    I wasn't even that much of a seasoned smoker of the "real" thing, but I did know when I'd been sold a pup. I've no doubt that Spice was/is full of awful chemicals that have no business being near your lungs, which is reason enough not to bother with it. But getting high off the stuff? Hallucinating? Can't say I experienced any of that.Maybe, at best, I might have felt a slight spaceyness(which could have come from tobacco), with cottonmouth and headache, that didn't last too long. That's my honest opinion of the stuff from when I tried it.

    Fair enough


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,858 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Now, it's been a few years since I went anywhere near it; perhaps it is more potent these days. But it was absolutely useless back around the time that headshops seemed to be popping up everywhere and anywhere.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Smoke banana peel strings, that's what Snoopy Dog Dog and Puff Daddy does.
    It's rad!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,282 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Op's gonna nark on our stash...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    biko wrote: »
    Smoke banana peel strings, that's what Snoopy Dog Dog and Puff Daddy does.
    It's rad!
    When I was 15 I downloaded the anarchists cookbook and tried this. My mam was well pissed off because I destroyed her good pots and pans. Although that wasn't while cooking the banana skins, it while while I was trying to make a smoke bomb and realised that Salt Peter isn't just table salt. Anyway, she made me smoke all the skins that I'd cooked, which didn't make me high but it seriously fcuked up my throat for a good week. That the cookbook was an awful liar and I smoked some weird stuff including but not limited to cinnamon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,814 ✭✭✭harry Bailey esq


    biko wrote: »
    Smoke banana peel strings, that's what Snoopy Dog Dog and Puff Daddy does.
    It's rad!

    Pfft....read the album sleeve(remember those)of 'expierience' by the prodigy, 1991. A joke a quarter of a century old.


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