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Serious oops by Aeromexico

  • 04-04-2016 05:25PM
    #1
    Noxegon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭


    Interesting story here:

    Aeroméxico flight to Monterrey lands at wrong airport

    Landing in the wrong place is bad enough, but taking off again after just ten minutes seems incredible to me. I don't know how they'd have managed their performance calculations in that time...

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  • #2
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,479 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    According to an "expert" the runway was in fact too short for the regular limitations of that embarer.


  • #3
    Shannon757
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    According to an "expert" the runway was in fact too short for the regular limitations of that embarer.

    Sure didn't a C-5 or C-17 take off from a runway like half the required length a while back?


  • #4
    Victor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,652 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Shannon757 wrote: »
    Sure didn't a C-5 or C-17 take off from a runway like half the required length a while back?

    JATO?

    Was it fully loaded?

    How long did it take to clear terrain?


  • #5
    Shannon757
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Victor wrote: »
    JATO?

    Was it fully loaded?

    How long did it take to clear terrain?

    It was a C-17, unloaded.Found a link:http://www.flyingmag.com/pilots-places/pilots-adventures-more/video-c-17-accidentally-lands-small-ga-airport


  • #6
    postitnote
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 413 ✭✭postitnote


    I'd love to hear the conversation in the cockpit for these events.

    If only it happened in Mexico or USA.

    I'm sure they've been mentioned on here before, but in case anybody missed it:

    Here's Eirjet landing at a disused RAF base close to City of Derry airport in 2006:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6251849.stm
    The report says the crew of the Airbus A320 - operating on behalf of Ryanair - believed an instrument landing aid system at City of Derry was malfunctioning as what they saw of the runway did not match the instrument readings.

    The report said that the 59-year-old captain said that once he saw Ballykelly, and not knowing there was another airfield in the vicinity, "his mind-set was that this must be his destination airfield".

    And a little bit further back:

    On 2 March 1989 a Dan Air BAe 748, bound for Belfast International Airport, mistakenly landed at Langford Lodge.

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjP_Y-w_fbLAhUoMJoKHXSnBtsQFggvMAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.google.com%2Fnewspapers%3Fnid%3D2507%26dat%3D19890303%26id%3DLTNAAAAAIBAJ%26sjid%3DMlkMAAAAIBAJ%26pg%3D3139%2C608340&usg=AFQjCNHQ6OLKIFpqxbIkAvvlj-WOPVaE8A&sig2=0HXY99p6MNEANQD0d_QclA

    I also heard a story once of a flight lined up for 04 into Belfast City airport was in fact lined up for the driveway up to Stormont Parliament building approx 3km to the East. Now that would have been a fun landing for them. I have no source for that story though.


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  • #7
    Tenger
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    Noxegon wrote: »
    .......
    Landing in the wrong place is bad enough, but taking off again after just ten minutes seems incredible to me. I don't know how they'd have managed their performance calculations in that time...

    The initial landing was a mistake, has happened in the past and Im sure will happen again. The departure was close to criminal. Knowingly departing from an airport that you do not have permission to do so from......

    EDIT; as martinsvi says below....the story doesn't give info on how they departed and what sort of comms happened during hat 10 mins on the ground.


  • #8
    martinsvi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭martinsvi


    Del Norte (MMAN) offers two runways, longest of them being ILS equipped 2011m long. I'm sure it was more than enough for a E170. 10 minutes on the ground also allowed them ample time to get a flight plan and clearance sorted. I think this story is made to appear bigger than it actually is.. of course they did land at an airport without a clearance, there's no downplaying that. But we don't really know anything about the departure, might as well been perfectly legal


  • #9
    The King of Dalriada
    Closed Accounts Posts: 59 ✭✭The King of Dalriada


    postitnote wrote: »
    I

    I also heard a story once of a flight lined up for 04 into Belfast City airport was in fact lined up for the driveway up to Stormont Parliament building approx 3km to the East. Now that would have been a fun landing for them. I have no source for that story though.

    A Futura 737 once lined up its approach with the M50 at night. Hence the warning text on the 28 approach charts now.
    And then there was the MD80 that mistook the lights of a hotel in Ballymun (I blame the crazy days of the celtic Tiger for that one!) for 34.


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