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Food guidelines on eggs

  • 04-04-2016 12:58pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭


    Love my runny eggs and I admit I've had a few since finding out I'm pregnant. I also had a carbonara and now I feel guilty. Is everyone else sticking 100% to the food no-nos or are you flexible? I understand in the UK at least runny eggs may be coming back on the menu for vulnerable people the risk is so low.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭bpmurray


    That samonella outbreak in the UK was in the late '80s - there should be no issue with eggs now. In any case, well-cooked eggs kill the bacteria, so there's no problem with carbonara or hard-boiled. If you're partial to raw eggs, though, it's probably a good idea to wait a few months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭Beanybabog


    Thanks. Yeah my "research" tells me it should be ok! I just feel bad because it's on my list of no-no foods from the doctor, even though the risk is small.

    All my friends seem to be so much better, they all totally avoided everything on the list..runny eggs, beef was well done, no fizzy drinks ever, no bold cheese.... I know person breastfeeding and still hasn't had a cup of coffee yet even though she's absolutely gagging for one. I have a cup everyday :o (Doctor said I can).

    Also I only seem to want to eat bread, pasta, cheese and the like, and have developed a bit of sweet tooth I never had. A mange tout made me gag the other night. Trying to feel positive but I feel like I'm not doing great and I'm only 7 weeks :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    I was going to post something more pertinent about eggs and such... but it was going to be the "when I was in my 20s" type of old-lady nonsense, so I decided not to.

    But I checked the current lists of foods not to eat when pregnant. No sushi? No Roquefort? No smoked salmon? Thanks, but I'm keeping my IUD till menopause, sorry, we're just foodies at my house. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭Beanybabog


    Speedwell wrote: »
    I was going to post something more pertinent about eggs and such... but it was going to be the "when I was in my 20s" type of old-lady nonsense, so I decided not to.

    But I checked the current lists of foods not to eat when pregnant. No sushi? No Roquefort? No smoked salmon? Thanks, but I'm keeping my IUD till menopause, sorry, we're just foodies at my house. :D

    :D:D NHS says sushi is ok! And smoked salmon. The guidelines vary country by country.

    I'm more of the mind set - no alcohol, no cigarettes, no illegal drugs (not that I did anyway!), no jacuzzis and no crazy sporting activities. Everything else I'm more loose about because I love my food :( And there is nothing more depressing than a fried egg with a cooked yolk in my opinion


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    I've pretty much just given up eggs. I have slipped and forgotten a few times especially early on but as others have said the last salmonella outbreak is years and years ago now, so the risk seems low.

    The NHS guidelines are the best. Pretty much everything is ok if it's been through the regular food industry. Even cheeses that most people think of as dodgy are fine provided they're pasteurised (almost anything sold in a packet in a shop is). Failing that cook everything thoroughly before eating.

    The one I'm most wary of is salad.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭Beanybabog


    Never thought about salad but that makes sense. Jesus there's so much to think about. I usually eat anything I want and I haven't got food poisoning / poisoned myself yet so I won't worry too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Penny Dreadful


    Beanybabog wrote: »
    Thanks. Yeah my "research" tells me it should be ok! I just feel bad because it's on my list of no-no foods from the doctor, even though the risk is small.

    All my friends seem to be so much better, they all totally avoided everything on the list..runny eggs, beef was well done, no fizzy drinks ever, no bold cheese.... I know person breastfeeding and still hasn't had a cup of coffee yet even though she's absolutely gagging for one. I have a cup everyday :o (Doctor said I can).

    Also I only seem to want to eat bread, pasta, cheese and the like, and have developed a bit of sweet tooth I never had. A mange tout made me gag the other night. Trying to feel positive but I feel like I'm not doing great and I'm only 7 weeks :mad:

    Ah here! Thats just crazy carry on.
    I'm pregnant with my second child and as with the first pregnancy have almost entirely avoided alcohol. I had a glass of two of champagne at my sister's wedding on my first pregnancy and a most delightful glass of white wine on holidays once too. Other than that I didn't drink on that pregnancy but it wasn't a hardship at all.
    On this pregnancy I was a wedding just after I'd found out I was pregnant and had a glass or two of champagne at that wedding and then another glass of procecco on Valentine's Day. It was gorgous.
    Baby is going fine and flying along.

    I love my tea and haven't stopped drinking it. Granted I drink less than I used to but thats because I don't want to be up any more often than I have to for the bathroom but I don't think a few cups of tea will do any harm.

    In terms of food, I avoid shellfish but do eat prawns if they are out of the shell and cooked by myself or right in front of me as then I know they're fresh and safe. I have ordered my meat more well done than I'd usually have it but I don't mind that too much.
    Eggs I've never been bothered about so can't comment on that one for you.
    I have eaten feta cheese too but again when cooking it myself. I have had goats cheese in a restaurant also but when its properly cooked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    I paid little heed to all the stories about not being allowed this, that or the other. Once I was sensible about the sourcing and cooking, I ate what I fancied. I had such bad nauseau both times that whatever I could keep down was what I ate. There's more of a case for strict guidelines in other countries TBH and some people are way over the top about what they can't have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Penny Dreadful


    lazygal wrote: »
    I paid little heed to all the stories about not being allowed this, that or the other. Once I was sensible about the sourcing and cooking, I ate what I fancied. I had such bad nauseau both times that whatever I could keep down was what I ate. There's more of a case for strict guidelines in other countries TBH and some people are way over the top about what they can't have.

    Exactly. There is so much to be said for common sense. You're going to need your head checking if you head off to Mumbai and drink water straight from the tap in your hotel bathroom but going to a reliable butcher or fishmonger and buying something to cook at home yourself is fine.
    I find the USA guidelines are so so extreme. NHS (or HSE who've copied the NHS ones) guidelines are much more straightforward.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    lazygal wrote: »
    I paid little heed to all the stories about not being allowed this, that or the other. Once I was sensible about the sourcing and cooking, I ate what I fancied. I had such bad nauseau both times that whatever I could keep down was what I ate. There's more of a case for strict guidelines in other countries TBH and some people are way over the top about what they can't have.

    I'd tend to agree. And even with food poisoning, its only a few kinds that actually harm a pregnancy. With most, you'll just feel utter crap (or if you've already morning sickness /fatigue, you'll just feel crappier than usual for a while)

    You are usually more at risk of poisoning yourself with food hygiene in the home because most commercial kitchens or food production factories have HACCP procedures, fully trained staff, protective clothing and equipment and monitored temperature charts on their fridges /cookers and so on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭fondue


    Eggs I've never been bothered about so can't comment on that one for you.
    I have eaten feta cheese too but again when cooking it myself. I have had goats cheese in a restaurant also but when its properly cooked.

    Feta is safe to eat uncooked when pregnant as is goats cheese without the rind. The only type of goats cheese to avoid is chevre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭Penny Dreadful


    fondue wrote: »
    Feta is safe to eat uncooked when pregnant as is goats cheese without the rind. The only type of goats cheese to avoid is chevre.

    With a user name like yours I'm going to take this post as absolute truth and fact :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 517 ✭✭✭moving_home


    Beanybabog wrote: »
    :D:D NHS says sushi is ok! And smoked salmon. The guidelines vary country by country.

    I'm more of the mind set - no alcohol, no cigarettes, no illegal drugs (not that I did anyway!), no jacuzzis and no crazy sporting activities. Everything else I'm more loose about because I love my food :( And there is nothing more depressing than a fried egg with a cooked yolk in my opinion

    I was the same as you. My baby is perfect. I had 2/3 coffees a week whereas I had friends who wouldn't drink tea or eat meringue just in case. Over the top imo but that's their perogative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    What a blessing that I had all mine before anyone knew about all these issues!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭Digs


    looksee wrote: »
    What a blessing that I had all mine before anyone knew about all these issues!

    My mum often says this, she reckons it's a wonder she got any of the five of us to adulthood safely given the new guidelines :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭fondue


    With a user name like yours I'm going to take this post as absolute truth and fact :-)



    Haha I know my cheeses!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,949 ✭✭✭✭IvyTheTerrible


    fondue wrote: »
    Feta is safe to eat uncooked when pregnant as is goats cheese without the rind. The only type of goats cheese to avoid is chevre.
    I don't understand, chevre means goat?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭fondue


    I don't understand, chevre means goat?


    Chèvre is a type of goats cheese with a mould ripened rind. Hard goats cheese is fine.


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