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Licking Rushes

  • 03-04-2016 7:44am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭


    Have a good few acres of rushes to sort. Have them cut and waiting for new crop of green ones to appear !! Intend to lick them with Mortone but hear mixed views about it. Any other product better ? Any tips about licking....homemade licker behind a 35.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    zetorman wrote: »
    Have a good few acres of rushes to sort. Have them cut and waiting for new crop of green ones to appear !! Intend to lick them with Mortone but hear mixed views about it. Any other product better ? Any tips about licking....homemade licker behind a 35.
    Gallop or round-up would be better for licking as your only getting the rush.
    Need some dry weather with growth, which could be a wait


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    Farrell wrote:
    Gallop or round-up would be better for licking as your only getting the rush. Need some dry weather with growth, which could be a wait

    +1 use some form of Roundup. We go with a mix of a third Gallop, a third veg oil and a third water. Gets a great kill and the rush won't come back. After two years of that you'll have gotten rid of 95% of the rushes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,125 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    +1 use some form of Roundup. We go with a mix of a third Gallop, a third veg oil and a third water. Gets a great kill and the rush won't come back. After two years of that you'll have gotten rid of 95% of the rushes.
    But water won't mix with oil. The oil will just float on top.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭50HX


    mcpa does the job fine with a licker, stick a drop of Quix and you'll get a better stick and see where you've done

    spray is not the only answer for rushes

    you also have to consider the soil ph, water drainage and fertiliser

    drainage isn't always an option

    when you put out spray it reduces the ph...the answer to this is Lime but on heavy land you can't go mad on it either as it will make it fierce soft

    spray & fertiliser for a long term control is the most viable option with a rotation of lime as well (test the soil)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭tractorporn


    But water won't mix with oil. The oil will just float on top.


    Haven't found that to be the case, the land where we would be going in would be rough enough so it keeps the little tank agitated.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭Sacrolyte


    If this bloody weather keeps up we won't be licking any rushes cause we be atein em.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭mikefoxo


    zetorman wrote: »
    Have a good few acres of rushes to sort. Have them cut and waiting for new crop of green ones to appear !! Intend to lick them with Mortone but hear mixed views about it. Any other product better ? Any tips about licking....homemade licker behind a 35.

    Fancy throwing up a picture or two of the licker you made. I have a 35 too;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 94 ✭✭Wigster


    Sacrolyte wrote: »
    If this bloody weather keeps up we won't be licking any rushes cause we be atein em.

    I cut rushes last summer with the intention of licking but weather broke and never got around to it. If we got few dry days now could you lick them this month? How long before cutting them afterwards? Can't stand the sight of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭Farrell


    50HX wrote: »
    mcpa does the job fine with a licker, stick a drop of Quix and you'll get a better stick and see where you've done

    spray is not the only answer for rushes

    you also have to consider the soil ph, water drainage and fertiliser

    drainage isn't always an option

    when you put out spray it reduces the ph...the answer to this is Lime but on heavy land you can't go mad on it either as it will make it fierce soft

    spray & fertiliser for a long term control is the most viable option with a rotation of lime as well (test the soil)

    Then if we didn't spray/lick/wipe & just applied lime in ground/gran/slag form, would that reduce the rushes naturally (if drainage was good)?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭limo_100


    tinking of getting a licker this year just wondering how many acres could you do a day with a licker and tractor


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭50HX


    Farrell wrote: »
    Then if we didn't spray/lick/wipe & just applied lime in ground/gran/slag form, would that reduce the rushes naturally (if drainage was good)?

    if you've good drainage and get the soil nutrients right then you are on the road to getting rid of them,

    if this was the case i'd cut, clean em up and on then with fertilizer

    do you see rushes growing on good free draining land....generally not

    they are the greatest curse

    if i'd a market for em i'd be retired already...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭50HX


    limo_100 wrote: »
    tinking of getting a licker this year just wondering how many acres could you do a day with a licker and tractor



    get the one with the bristles...more expensive but far better job imo

    fine tedious head wrecking job is licking

    if' you'd full acres of rushes i'd guess 6-8 acres a day maybe

    only ever do it field by field


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭limo_100


    50HX wrote: »
    get the one with the bristles...more expensive but far better job imo

    fine tedious head wrecking job is licking

    if' you'd full acres of rushes i'd guess 6-8 acres a day maybe

    only ever do it field by field

    is that the one that detects the weeds it self? who makes the one with the bristles??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭greenpetrol


    Would cattle need to be kept out of licked fields for long?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭50HX


    limo_100 wrote: »
    is that the one that detects the weeds it self? who makes the one with the bristles??

    no but it's controlled from the cab with a timer that you can set depending on coverage of rush in field, there's also an aver ride button on it

    check the link below

    for sale in newmarket in cork by Hourigans

    found it a brilliant job with the last 2 years

    only field that hasn't been really effective in is one that was neglected with fertiliser a bit...not the lickers fault

    really couldn't fault it and way better than the carpet roller one

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li83VPABdVs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭50HX


    Would cattle need to be kept out of licked fields for long?

    i think a min of 7days to be on the safe side


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭limo_100


    50HX wrote: »
    no but it's controlled from the cab with a timer that you can set depending on coverage of rush in field, there's also an aver ride button on it

    check the link below

    for sale in newmarket in cork by Hourigans

    found it a brilliant job with the last 2 years

    only field that hasn't been really effective in is one that was neglected with fertiliser a bit...not the lickers fault

    really couldn't fault it and way better than the carpet roller one

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li83VPABdVs

    what would the price of one of them be??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,262 ✭✭✭50HX


    limo_100 wrote: »
    what would the price of one of them be??

    i got mine for 3700

    there is 3 of us bought it 2gether

    not always the best road to go down but we agreed to try it and if it didn't work out then sell it

    so far so good tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 49 SirustheVirus


    Wigster wrote: »
    I cut rushes last summer with the intention of licking but weather broke and never got around to it. If we got few dry days now could you lick them this month? How long before cutting them afterwards? Can't stand the sight of them.

    Hi Wigster, How long did you leave the rushes after licking before you topped them ? I licked a field last week and they are slowly starting to die. I am wondering how long will I leave them before I run the topper over them and clean up the field??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 793 ✭✭✭tatoo


    Is four weeks, at this time of year, long enough to leave them after topping before I hit them with a licker ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,719 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    tatoo wrote: »
    Is four weeks, at this time of year, long enough to leave them after topping before I hit them with a licker ?

    They just need to be long enough to get decent contact with the drum without murdering the grass..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,301 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    I know the advice is to top / hit the regrowth but a fella sprayed rushes for me , no topping , with mcpa last year and got a great kill


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