Obese people clips on news items

gormdubhgorm

When a news article comes on the news about obese people. It is always accompanied by clips of rotund people waddling down the street. It never shows faces of the individuals.
I have a number of questions about this.
1) Is it filmed secretly with a hidden camera?
2) Does a cameraman chase obese people all day looking for good ones for the library file?
3) Has anyone ever recognised themselves or someone they know in these type of clips?
4) Are these clips necessary for the news item?

CarFan100

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

2) Does a cameraman chase obese people all day

Lol

kneemos

Same thought has crossed my mind,pretty sure they'd be recognised.
Not hard to find though.

tuisginideach

Yes, I felt sorry for anyone who was recognised on that News clip.

mansize

they leave donuts at the top of Grafton street, place the camera at waist height, and press record...

Iwasfrozen

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

When a news article comes on the news about obese people. It is always accompanied by clips of rotund people waddling down the street. It never shows faces of the individuals.
I have a number of questions about this.
1) Is it filmed secretly with a hidden camera?
2) Does a cameraman chase obese people all day looking for good ones for the library file?
3) Has anyone ever recognised themselves or someone they know in these type of clips?
4) Are these clips necessary for the news item?

I'm wondering about the legality of this. A person's face doesn't need to be shown to be identified by people the person knows. Especially if they're *ahem* robust. It's a distinctive trait.

Anyone know if this has ever been challenged in court?

mansize

tuisginideach wrote: »

Yes, I felt sorry for anyone who was recognised on that News clip.

Its always glandular...

ProudDUB

Funny, I was just thinking about the very same thing, when the RTE News piece ended with a shot of a very over weight woman, in a VERY tight pink T-shirt. You could probably see her belly fat wobbling from outer space. I wondered if the poor woman knew she was being filmed.

But at the end of the day, they didn't show her face. That is the key point, imo. I know several very, very over weight women. If they ever appear on an RTE news report, I'm not going to make the connection as to who they are, unless their faces are shown too. So I very much doubt if the friends and family of the pink t-shirt lady made that connection either.

Omackeral

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

2) Does a cameraman chase obese people all day looking for good ones for the library file?

I wouldn't think there's too much in the way of chasing involved.

gctest50

mansize wrote: »

Its always glandular...

genetics too

http://i.imgur.com/dl09rDa.png

mansize

gctest50 wrote: »

genetics too

http://i.imgur.com/dl09rDa.png

A Fridge too far...

R.D. aka MR.D

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I'm wondering about the legality of this. A person's face doesn't need to be shown to be identified by people the person knows. Especially if they're *ahem* robust. It's a distinctive trait.

Anyone know if this has ever been challenged in court?

You are allowed to film people in a public place.

Ruu

*slow motion clip of fat persons backside wobbling with statistical information about fat not being good for you*

Arsemageddon

mansize wrote: »

they leave donuts at the top of Grafton street, place the camera at waist height, and press record...

Would have been good if they had David Attenborough doing the voice over.

PARlance

It's a normal sized person in a body suit. Same guy they get to hold a cigarette and pint in other health related clips.

Olishi4

I never thought of this before really but I always wondered how they cast the token fat kid in movies.

Usually there would be jokes or that child would play a stereotype for example "Chunk" in The Goonies. So they advertise the role and then the parents are a like "oh sounds like our kid, let's put him up for audition"? Poor kid.

Sky King

mansize wrote: »

they leave donuts at the top of Grafton street, place the camera at waist height, and press record...

*O'Connell street.

The highlight of any trip to Dublin. Yum.

Get Real

I don't really see a problem with it. Its the same when they have a story on cigarettes, people's torsos just walking or standing as they smoke.

I think around budget time too, with petrol and the likes, they have people without face being shown, filling up their cars. They seem to apply it equally to all stories, and only when its relevant

razorblunt

Olishi4 wrote: »

I never thought of this before really but I always wondered how they cast the token fat kid in movies.

Usually there would be jokes or that child would play a stereotype for example "Chunk" in The Goonies. So they advertise the role and then the parents are a like "oh sounds like our kid, let's put him up for audition"? Poor kid.

Pretty much that.
Probably worse as you get older, "get me the weird looking guy with the rapey face".

gozunda

Completley unnecessary imo and 'here's one we spotted earlier' type television reporting

News story scenario:

"Today's lots of branches and twigs fell off a tree"
Show newstock picture of some twigs and branches

Can also be pure sensisalization eg anti abortion= foetus in a bucket picture. Anti 'cruelty' = puppies tied up with string etc etc

It's lazy broadcasting and over simplification tbh

Plus a person doesn't have to be massive to be labelled obese with current BM classifications

Ya might be a personal problem for some people but making stupid fat jokes here ain't a million miles from other forms of bullying.

RayCon

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

When a news article comes on the news about obese people. It is always accompanied by clips of rotund people waddling down the street. It never shows faces of the individuals.
I have a number of questions about this.
1) Is it filmed secretly with a hidden camera?
2) Does a cameraman chase obese people all day looking for good ones for the library file?
3) Has anyone ever recognised themselves or someone they know in these type of clips?
4) Are these clips necessary for the news item?

The correct way to report on this ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5zCVlNuuO4

gozunda

RayCon wrote: »

The correct way to report on this ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5zCVlNuuO4

Ff$ is that 'supposed' to be funny? I'd take that little jerk and put his camera where he would need surgical intervention How's that ****e not harassment?

Duh! "lets follow old ladies", "let's follow the kid that can't walk right"

Idiots

a fat guy

gozunda wrote: »

Ff$ is that 'supposed' to be funny? I'd take that little jerk and put his camera where he would need surgical intervention How's that ****e not harassment?

Duh! "lets follow old ladies", "let's follow the kid that can't walk right"

Idiots

It's from Family Guy.

Not justifying it, just saying where he got the idea.

JustTheOne

Like fat ugly people in films. Always wondered about it but turns out they actually hold auditions for fat ugly people.

Like that poor kid in bad santa. His parents should be locked up for offering him up as the fat ugly kid in bad santa.

Scarred for life, although he probably gets his hole every night because of it!

crazygeryy

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

When a news article comes on the news about obese people. It is always accompanied by clips of rotund people waddling down the street. It never shows faces of the individuals.
I have a number of questions about this.
1) Is it filmed secretly with a hidden camera?
2) Does a cameraman chase obese people all day looking for good ones for the library file?
3) Has anyone ever recognised themselves or someone they know in these type of clips?
4) Are these clips necessary for the news item?

you were one of them werent you?its ok we couldnt see your face so we have no idea who you are, relax.

FizzleSticks

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Littlehorny

JustTheOne wrote: »

Like fat ugly people in films. Always wondered about it but turns out they actually hold auditions for fat ugly people.

Like that poor kid in bad santa. His parents should be locked up for offering him up as the fat ugly kid in bad santa.

Scarred for life, although he probably gets his hole every night because of it!

He's going to be back in Bad Santa 2! He's 22 now and in fairness he was never going to end up looking like Brad Pitt but he grew up fairly normal looking at this stage.

Seth Brundle

tuisginideach wrote: »

Yes, I felt sorry for anyone who was recognised on that News clip.

Why? Would it have come as a surprise that they were labelled as obese?

Into The Blue

PARlance wrote: »

It's a normal sized person in a body suit. Same guy they get to hold a cigarette and pint in other health related clips...

... and budget day

Harry Palmr

What's the problem? Its not as if someone's weight is going to come as a surprise to the rest of the world - or the friends and neighbours. if you are wandering about a public space then you can be filmed against your will, but TV broadcasters have rules about identification of members of the public when they are part of a report on something that is perfectly legal but socially shameful - hence the denim and runners dole queue shuffle.

gormdubhgorm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

What's the problem? Its not as if someone's weight is going to come as a surprise to the rest of the world - or the friends and neighbours. if you are wandering about a public space then you can be filmed against your will, but TV broadcasters have rules about identification of members of the public when they are part of a report on something that is perfectly legal but socially shameful - hence the denim and runners dole queue shuffle.

I understand that point. But it just seems strange that the news items need to show bits of fat people minus their head.
I mean is this just in case the general population do not know what a fat person looks like?
Personally if it was me I would show the people's faces as well as the rest of the torso.
As this would be the equivalent of shaming people who did not pay their taxes in the papers.
It may have some benefit then.

razorblunt

gozunda wrote: »

Completley unnecessary imo and 'here's one we spotted earlier' type television reporting

News story scenario:

"Today's lots of branches and twigs fell off a tree"
Show newstock picture of some twigs and branches

Can also be pure sensisalization eg anti abortion= foetus in a bucket picture. Anti 'cruelty' = puppies tied up with string etc etc

It's lazy broadcasting and over simplification tbh

Plus a person doesn't have to be massive to be labelled obese with current BM classifications

Ya might be a personal problem for some people but making stupid fat jokes here ain't a million miles from other forms of bullying.

Agreed, though they probably put it down as "it tells the story", i.e. people are getting fatter, look, here's a fat person, see its true, we didnt make it up.