vet charges

Country lad

Just had vet call tonight to do a cercarian section on ewe and just wondering what do they usually charge for it .

rangler1

Country lad wrote: »

Just had vet call tonight to do a cercarian section on ewe and just wondering what do they usually charge for it .

€80 to 100 here but had one vet charge me €240 and be disappointed that i didn't give him cash......but he doesn't get my business now.
it's a very quick job compared to a cow

Country lad

Thanks very much for reply hopefully my vet will charge around a hundred as well will let you know when I get the bill

Country lad

Thanks very much for reply hopefully my vet will charge around a hundred as well will let you know when I get the bill

sea12

Country lad wrote: »

Thanks very much for reply hopefully my vet will charge around a hundred as well will let you know when I get the bill

80 for me last year. Agree with ranger pretty quick job compared to cattle

Green farmer

sea12 wrote: »

80 for me last year.

+1

Think I paid €80 before to include call out and procedure. Vet turned up within 1/2 hour. Funny ain't it. Try and get the same service from a doctor for a sick human.

arctictree

Our vet charges about €70 for a call out and is always here within the hour. Very good service.

I have a friend who is a sheep farmer in a tillage/dairy area and his Vet won't do call outs for sheep!

tom_k

€90-100 is the usual rate around here too (Mayo)

waalaa

wow, I never knew some vets charged reasonable prices. We were charged from memory around €250 for a section a few years ago, I'm guessing it was the same price for a cow. It was the first and last time we had one, any that needed a section since, got shot and we cut the lambs out ourselves. Not the most pleasant but when the vet costs more than the animal it's treating, it is what it is. I will be calling different vets though now.

drive it

Had one a week ago €90 . just out of interest what are the survival rate for the ewe from a cesarean? In the last 20 odd years I had 5 of them and only 2 lived and was asking the vet that night but he said he always wondered (they never check up ) as he thought the stress of it would be a lot for a ewe go take say than a cow. In his opinion he thought in financial terms it was better to cut your losses and put them down as it would be say 5-10€ to put them down and €35 to knackery as to €90 for cesarean and if she dies €35.

rangler1

waalaa wrote: »

wow, I never knew some vets charged reasonable prices. We were charged from memory around €250 for a section a few years ago, I'm guessing it was the same price for a cow. It was the first and last time we had one, any that needed a section since, got shot and we cut the lambs out ourselves. Not the most pleasant but when the vet costs more than the animal it's treating, it is what it is. I will be calling different vets though now.

You do have a duty of care towards animals when you're farming, I always look at it as a cost spread over the whole flock as you're going to have a small percentage of ceasereans anyway, 90% of cases here would live and most would breed again, a lot of them would be ewe lambs and would have youth on their side

White Clover

waalaa wrote: »

wow, I never knew some vets charged reasonable prices. We were charged from memory around €250 for a section a few years ago, I'm guessing it was the same price for a cow. It was the first and last time we had one, any that needed a section since, got shot and we cut the lambs out ourselves. Not the most pleasant but when the vet costs more than the animal it's treating, it is what it is. I will be calling different vets though now.

That's a shocking attitude to have. Surely you realise that you are going to have costs/problems. You have to allow for these.

Username John

drive it wrote: »

Had one a week ago €90 . just out of interest what are the survival rate for the ewe from a cesarean? In the last 20 odd years I had 5 of them and only 2 lived and was asking the vet that night but he said he always wondered (they never check up ) as he thought the stress of it would be a lot for a ewe go take say than a cow. In his opinion he thought in financial terms it was better to cut your losses and put them down as it would be say 5-10€ to put them down and €35 to knackery as to €90 for cesarean and if she dies €35.

Haven't had one in a few years now thankfully...

The cost at the time was something around 80 - and it was done in the middle of the night...
To be honest, I remember thinking that 'twas small money for a vet to get up at 2am drive to me, work for an hour and drive home again...

We wouldn't ever had many done, but any that were done never died...
Also, majority of the times, the lambs lived. So I don't know about putting em done - unless you know there is something else wrong and the lambs are gone and the ewe is looking shook herself...
Maybe we've just been lucky (we only have a few ewes tho, so not a good sample size really)

Also - any that had a section always got the road. Never kept em afterwards...
Interesting to hear you keep em rangler...

rangler1

Username John wrote: »

Haven't had one in a few years now thankfully...

The cost at the time was something around 80 - and it was done in the middle of the night...
To be honest, I remember thinking that 'twas small money for a vet to get up at 2am drive to me, work for an hour and drive home again...

We wouldn't ever had many done, but any that were done never died...
Also, majority of the times, the lambs lived. So I don't know about putting em done - unless you know there is something else wrong and the lambs are gone and the ewe is looking shook herself...
Maybe we've just been lucky (we only have a few ewes tho, so not a good sample size really)

Also - any that had a section always got the road. Never kept em afterwards...
Interesting to hear you keep em rangler...

As i say, mostly ewe lambs and their pelvis will be a lot bigger at two year old than one year old,
Never culled one because of ceaseraen, even the adults.
Never had a ewe needing a second ceaser either

Username John

rangler1 wrote: »

As i say, mostly ewe lambs and their pelvis will be a lot bigger at two year old than one year old,
Never culled one because of ceaseraen, even the adults.
Never had a ewe needing a second ceaser either

Interesting - twas always a 'red card' here...

Would it nearly always be for big singles then Rangler?

rangler1

Username John wrote: »

Interesting - twas always a 'red card' here...

Would it nearly always be for big singles then Rangler?

Yea, it would in the ewe lambs, but have had deformed lambs too that needed it.
We don't cull for ringwomb either and never saw a ewe doing it twice either.

Username John

rangler1 wrote: »

Yea, it would in the ewe lambs, but have had deformed lambs too that needed it.
We don't cull for ringwomb either and never saw a ewe doing it twice either.

Really?

Do you cull 'tall Rangler

I didn't cull for ringwomb one time, and she had it again, said never again... but we only ever had one or two cases of it tho. Wouldn't have anywhere near the numbers you have...

ganmo

arctictree wrote: »

Our vet charges about €70 for a call out and is always here within the hour. Very good service.

I have a friend who is a sheep farmer in a tillage/dairy area and his Vet won't do call outs for sheep!

never had a vet call out during lambing, the vet hospital would be closer than our actual vet but I wouldn't like to see the bill from them for a c section

Green farmer

Often wondered who to blame if a section was needed, the ewe or ram. Have a huge big ram here, gives lovely twins that are easily finished, but is also responsible for every huge single that has to be pulled. He'll be visiting Kildare later in the year.

sea12

Green farmer wrote: »

Often wondered who to blame if a section was needed, the ewe or ram. Have a huge big ram here, gives lovely twins that are easily finished, but is also responsible for every huge single that has to be pulled. He'll be visiting Kildare later in the year.

Is that the Suffolk ram green?

sea12

rangler1 wrote: »

Yea, it would in the ewe lambs, but have had deformed lambs too that needed it.
We don't cull for ringwomb either and never saw a ewe doing it twice either.

Would always cull for both here. Interesting rangler.

The way I look at it the cast ewe is nearly the same value as a ewe lamb so cull the ewe and keep a ewe lamb

Green farmer

sea12 wrote: »

The way I look st it the cast ewe is nearly the same value as a ewe lamb so cull the ewe and keep a ewe lamb

Same here. €10 plus a cast ewe buys a new ewe lamb with a blank canvas to start over again.

It's a big huge texel who's getting the road. But I also have a second smaller texel who's fine. Even put him to first time ewe lambs / hoggets without issues. Think a huge big ram of any breed can be trouble.

rangler1

sea12 wrote: »

Would always full for both here. Interesting rangler.

The way I look st it the cast ewe is nearly the same value as a ewe lamb so cull the ewe and keep a ewe lamb

I suppose i started chancing them on when cull ewes were a rubbish price and saw no reason to change

Green farmer

rangler1 wrote: »

I suppose i started chancing them on when cull ewes were a rubbish price and saw no reason to change

Thank God they've improved over the last year or two. Remember getting €40 for big culls in mart or €20 if they were thin. Probably why I go directly to factory these days.

J.O. Farmer

Green farmer wrote: »

Same here. €10 plus a cast ewe buys a new ewe lamb with a blank canvas to start over again.

It's a big huge texel who's getting the road. But I also have a second smaller texel who's fine. Even put him to first time ewe lambs / hoggets without issues. Think a huge big ram of any breed can be trouble.

You wouldn't chance him in the mart in with the culls no guarantees. I've seen rams make a lot more than they'd make in the factory. The factory will give a poor price/kg for a ram I think a lot less than cull ewes.

waalaa

rangler1 wrote: »

You do have a duty of care towards animals when you're farming, I always look at it as a cost spread over the whole flock as you're going to have a small percentage of ceasereans anyway, 90% of cases here would live and most would breed again, a lot of them would be ewe lambs and would have youth on their side

It is gruesome (and very rare that it has to be done), but it is instant, and the ewe isn't put through any more hardship and as mentioned may well die anyway. If it was sectioned it would be shipped out soon after rearing its lambs, anything that gives me hassle, prolapses, bad feet, poor milk, or whatever else is culled, no exceptions.

White Clover wrote: »

That's a shocking attitude to have. Surely you realise that you are going to have costs/problems. You have to allow for these.

It may be shocking to you but sh1tty decisions are made all the time based on cost, the HSE won't pay for some drugs that could greatly improve some peoples lives because of cost. If you are a medical card holder and discover you need 3 fillings for your teeth, pick 2 of your favourite because one is getting pulled out and good luck trying to find a dentist that might do their patient a favour and do the last filling for free...and so on.

Username John

waalaa wrote: »

It may be shocking to you but sh1tty decisions are made all the time based on cost, the HSE won't pay for some drugs that could greatly improve some peoples lives because of cost. If you are a medical card holder and discover you need 3 fillings for your teeth, pick 2 of your favourite because one is getting pulled out and good luck trying to find a dentist that might do their patient a favour and do the last filling for free...and so on.

What I took from the abovs is
'you make decesions based on cost, as do the HSE, but it seems they waste money on 2 fillings, where it would be cheaper to pull all - so the HSE should pull all your teeth'

I would agree with you - wasting money filling teeth... Shame on the HSE... Kill all the sheep and pull all the teeth I say!!!

waalaa

Username John wrote: »

What I took from the abovs is
'you make decesions based on cost, as do the HSE, but it seems they waste money on 2 fillings, where it would be cheaper to pull all - so the HSE should pull all your teeth'

I would agree with you - wasting money filling teeth... Shame on the HSE... Kill all the sheep and pull all the teeth I say!!!

ha, I probably shouldn't have used a HSE analogy, but you're on the right path, kill all the sheep with no teeth.

Green farmer

Slightly off topic, but here lambing away in sheds. Had to pull one or two big singles from terminal Rams, then you come across a lamb sired by llyen ram. The ewe really does fire them out, in comparison. They really spit out a little Snow White ball of fluff !!!

Username John

Green farmer wrote: »

Slightly off topic, but here lambing away in sheds. Had to pull one or two big singles from terminal Rams, then you come across a lamb sired by llyen ram. The ewe really does fire them out, in comparison. They really spit out a little Snow White ball of fluff !!!

What other rams have you green - texel? And another breed is it?

Hae a Lleyn here now, lovely handy lively lambs...

Green farmer

Username John wrote: »

What other rams have you green - texel? And another breed is it
.

I've two texels, 1 Charolais , 1 llyen. All my ewes are texel X.
The llyen lambs are up off the ground fastest shouting for milk. Pity they won't finish as well later in summer .

DK man

Last c I got cost €120. Ewe died 2 days later. Only 1 of the lambs survived. Pretty bad day on the farm but I wouldn't let an animal suffer for the sake of a few euro. I was feeding beet at the time and since I stopped I haven't had any vet call outs...

Country lad

Just got bill this morning was a lot more than I expected. Out of hours call out charge 80euro c section 75 euro injections 6 euro total came to 161 just lucky than lamb and see still alive.

Country lad

Just got bill this morning was a lot more than I expected. Out of hours call out charge 80euro c section 75 euro injections 6 euro total came to 161 just lucky than lamb and see still alive.

Country lad

Just got bill this morning was a lot more than I expected. Out of hours call out charge 80euro c section 75 euro injections 6 euro total came to 161 just lucky than lamb and see still alive.

paddysdream

Cost 60 here 2 years ago.Brought ewe to vet surgery one night as she had one live lamb then what felt like a very large lump coming.It turned out to be a lamb perfectly formed from back legs/tail up to the navel and no more.
Not a hope of it ever coming out naturally.Took about half an hour and ewe perfect afterwards.Still here actually.

Green farmer

Got the bill yesterday for a c section I'd to get done last month on a ewe hogget. €56 vet fees plus €6 for the medicines used during procedure. I brought the ewe into them. Cannt really say fairer then that. Lamb died but hogget still running around field.

sea12

Green farmer wrote: »

Got the bill yesterday for a c section I'd to get done last month on a ewe hogget. €56 vet fees plus €6 for the medicines used during procedure. I brought the ewe into them. Cannt really say fairer then that. Lamb died but hogget still running around field.

That's very reasonable to be fair

Siamsa Sessions

We paid €54 for a call-out to a ewe who was down after having a big struggle to get two dead lambs out.

The vet gave her an anti-infection shot plus pain relief. And we got him to check another ewe that was huge but wasn't making much shape. He said she'd lamb within a day or two, after he examined her (she did!)

Thought it was a reasonable amount to charge.

Willfarman

Siamsa Sessions wrote: »

We paid €54 for a call-out to a ewe who was down after having a big struggle to get two dead lambs out.

The vet gave her an anti-infection shot plus pain relief. And we got him to check another ewe that was huge but wasn't making much shape. He said she'd lamb within a day or two, after he examined her (she did!)

Thought it was a reasonable amount to charge.

Very reasonable. Dead lambs can be a pretty awful job.