Electric High Tensile wire with Barbed Wire

patsy_mccabe

I have to run an electric fence along the boundary of a site of a house. Now the site is well fenced with 4 strands of barded wire already.
What would be the best way to run the high tensile wire?
Should I run it directly along the top of the timber posts or just between the top 2 barbed wires? Hard to decide.

Markcheese

If its your site and house and fence I'd stick it on top of the posts stop kids trying to climb over or stock rubbing tops of the posts , not sure if it's a neighbours place though...

blue5000

On top in case the barb wire sags. Or you could bend cheap pigtail posts 90 deg and attach them to the posts. I think the stud farms have them?
http://www.rghsupplies.co.uk/product/permanent-electric-fencing-2/

Muckit

They are called outriggers. Only job as you have to think about hedge more than likely growing inside site boundary at some stage.

Use them for the straight runs every third or fourth stake, but drive a timber stake at the ends and corners as they will bend if they are doing any more than holding up the wire.

patsy_mccabe

Feck it anyway. Put these tubular type Gallagher insulators along the top of the posts and the bloody wire is earthing to the top of the posts. The insulators don't cover the full width of the posts and the shock is jumping the 3mm or so to the post top edges.



Now, do I just use 2 at each post or would I be better off with the following.

White Clover

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Feck it anyway. Put these tubular type Gallagher insulators along the top of the posts and the bloody wire is earthing to the top of the posts. The insulators don't cover the full width of the posts and the shock is jumping the 3mm or so to the post top edges.



Now, do I just use 2 at each post or would I be better off with the following.

How long are the tube insulators Patsy?

patsy_mccabe

They're 100mm. Post are around 5" to 6" FRS.

Muckit

Would you whip off the top row of barbed wire and put the electric fence in its place on the side where it should be?!

Muckit

Would you whip off the top row of barbed wire and put the electric fence in its place on the side where it should be?!

Nothing holds well longterm in end grain.

patsy_mccabe

Muckit wrote: »

Would you whip off the top row of barbed wire and put the electric fence in its place on the side where it should be?!

Nothing holds well longterm in end grain.

I suggested that but site owner of site doesn't want to do that. He wont even let me move it down an inch, so I can put the electric wire in its place.

White Clover

FRS would have Bryce insultube that you can cut whatever length you want.
I'd agree with muckit that stapling on the top of the post is a disaster.

J.O. Farmer

White Clover wrote: »

FRS would have Bryce insultube that you can cut whatever length you want.
I'd agree with muckit that stapling on the top of the post is a disaster.

The 2nd screw top insulator might hold better than staples in the end grain but I wouldn't be sure. Is there enough room to get the screw type into side of the post. it'll need less room than a staple and maybe you could angle it slightly if need be to get a bit deeper.

patsy_mccabe

I moved them to the inside of the posts, an inch down and they're working fine now. The insulators lifted fine with a crowbar, no damage. I thought I'd destroy them. Easiest solution, no unwinding wire from the rachet strainer either. Job done.

patsy_mccabe

Another quick question - Running the hi-tensile along the inside of a hedge, mostly whitethorn. How far inside the cut back hedge should I leave it?
Someone mentioned on here before to leave enough room so that a hedge cutter could move along inside the wire.
Would 2 1/2 feet do?

patsy_mccabe

Bumpy bump

Never wrestle with pigs

Should do but don't be afraid to use the chain saw on a few of the strong lads. Put in a five row barb fence here a few years ago and I'm sorry I didn't leave more room for the hedgcutter. I'll have a few days of hardship with the chain saw comeing next winter to bate back the ditch from the fence.

Good loser

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Should do but don't be afraid to use the chain saw on a few of the strong lads. Put in a five row barb fence here a few years ago and I'm sorry I didn't leave more room for the hedgcutter. I'll have a few days of hardship with the chain saw comeing next winter to bate back the ditch from the fence.

No need to have a separation. Let the hedge envelop the barbed wire.

Markcheese

Good loser wrote:

No need to have a separation. Let the hedge envelop the barbed wire.

Just make sure the posts dont rot... either seriously good wooden posts or metal or concrete.... on concrete corner strainers... at someone elses expense

49801

Anyone else not think you should never mix electric and barb on the same fence???
Not nice to get a shock an then be driven into barbs weather man or beast!



Best compromise would be to use the long screw in jobs like below