Connolly Station Redevelopment

Seanmk1

Apparently after being on hold for a long time, this has been put out to tender:

It plans to demolish its central train control, maintenance shed and other office buildings.

These would be replaced by an 81,538sqm mixed-use commercial, community and residential development on a 3.2 hectare site.

In total, 13 new buildings, ranging in height from two to seven storeys, are to be built on an area currently occupied by offices and a car park.

Provision is also made for some 106 apartments, with three one-bedroom, 81 two-bedroom and 22 three-bedroom units, to be built in four blocks. A 110-bedroom hotel is planned for above Connolly Station. Seven blocks will take up over 50,000sqm of office space.

A new street through the site, linking Seville Place and Sheriff Street Lower, is also to be built. Provision for 550 underground car parking spaces, four coach spaces and 260 cycling bays are included in the plans.


Does anybody know the details?

godtabh

Seanmk1 wrote: »

Apparently after being on hold for a long time, this has been put out to tender:

It plans to demolish its central train control, maintenance shed and other office buildings.

These would be replaced by an 81,538sqm mixed-use commercial, community and residential development on a 3.2 hectare site.

In total, 13 new buildings, ranging in height from two to seven storeys, are to be built on an area currently occupied by offices and a car park.

Provision is also made for some 106 apartments, with three one-bedroom, 81 two-bedroom and 22 three-bedroom units, to be built in four blocks. A 110-bedroom hotel is planned for above Connolly Station. Seven blocks will take up over 50,000sqm of office space.

A new street through the site, linking Seville Place and Sheriff Street Lower, is also to be built. Provision for 550 underground car parking spaces, four coach spaces and 260 cycling bays are included in the plans.


Does anybody know the details?

Havent you just posted them?

Captain Chaos

Apartments, is this a joke. There in a big apartment block right next to the Connolly wash road that has been empty since the boom, the internal fitout was never completed and now they are throwing up more.

The whole things reads like and April fools joke.

Seanmk1

Ok, for those at the back, does anybody know the details *of the implementation*.

Any sign of a start date? What will be the affect on CTC? On schedules?

Captain Chaos

Seanmk1 wrote: »

Ok, for those at the back, does anybody know the details *of the implementation*.

Any sign of a start date? What will be the affect on CTC? On schedules?

Plans were for CTC to be moved into the Connolly loco shed but now the RPSI own that under a long term lease. That plan to move CTC was put on hold, it will not effect the DASH2 works which should be finally finished this year.

The only other work going on at Connolly is the reopening of the old DART entrance subway onto Amiens Street. That work is taking a long time.

flyingsnail

Do you have a link to the tender ?

loyatemu

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Apartments, is this a joke. There in a big apartment block right next to the Connolly wash road that has been empty since the boom, the internal fitout was never completed and now they are throwing up more.

there is a housing shortage, I assume that other block is mired in some sort of NAMA/bankruptcy issue and will eventually be fitted out.

Connolly is a nice central location, they should put up a 20 storey block or two.

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Picture of what it would look like here

http://www.herald.ie/news/cies-massive-redevelopment-plan-could-see-22storey-high-rises-built-31356538.html

Seanmk1

I'm afraid I don't. I saw it on the Wikipedia page for Connolly and took it at face value. I've had a dig around in TED/OJEU and it's not there. Maybe in this case because IÉ are selling and not buying it goes a different route?

Captain Chaos

loyatemu wrote: »

there is a housing shortage, I assume that other block is mired in some sort of NAMA/bankruptcy issue and will eventually be fitted out.

Connolly is a nice central location, they should put up a 20 storey block or two.

Yeah, there is a massive shortage and people in general are not looking for small apartments anymore. They are crying out for houses to raise a family in.

There are plenty of empty apartment block all around Connolly and Docklands that should be finished of to a high standard first.

NAMA are holding back capacity to force prices back up so that can sell for higher prices and thus less overall loss.

Seanmk1

A nice summary of station redevelopment projects here:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sites-earmarked-for-development-31356940.html

Markcheese

Captain Chaos wrote:

Apartments, is this a joke. There in a big apartment block right next to the Connolly wash road that has been empty since the boom, the internal fitout was never completed and now they are throwing up more.

Cos nobody wants accomadation in dublin right... especially in 3 or 4 years time..

Markcheese

Just as long as they don't get rid of land or access points they might need later for even remotely possible public transport projects.. IR or not ..

metrovick001

I would have though it prudent for Irish rail to focus on rail related service provision - they have a long way to go.

Captain Chaos

Markcheese wrote: »

Just as long as they don't get rid of land or access points they might need later for even remotely possible public transport projects.. IR or not ..

That's what there are doing with these plans. The VP plant for maintaining and cleaning trains will be gone as will 6 storage sidings behind the VP that are in heavy use off peak storing all the DMU sets. That unless they are going to have trains stored directly under the apartments built over them, and who would want to live directly over idling 29000 DMUs, they are nosy sods at the best of times.

flyingsnail

Captain Chaos wrote: »

who would want to live directly over idling 29000 DMUs, they are nosy sods at the best of times.

Probably the same people who bought the apartments overlooking the wash road and then complain about the noise from trains

BonkeyDonker

metrovick001 wrote: »

I would have though it prudent for Irish rail to focus on rail related service provision - they have a long way to go.

They are securing additional revenue for the foreseeable future from land that they own and cannot properly utilize. Revenue you would hope will be put back into the rail services. They should be applauded for doing this and not just selling it off for a one time gain.

Heisenberg1

flyingsnail wrote: »

Do you have a link to the tender ?

http://www.railjournal.com/index.php/signalling/irish-rail-issues-tender-for-national-train-control-centre.html

flyingsnail

Heisenberg1 wrote: »

http://www.railjournal.com/index.php/signalling/irish-rail-issues-tender-for-national-train-control-centre.html

Ah, so its just a tender for a new CTC rather than the full development

Heisenberg1

flyingsnail wrote: »

Ah, so its just a tender for a new CTC rather than the full development

I'm not sure I have heard of a redevelopment but I've not seen a tender only for a new CTC.

end of the road

Captain Chaos wrote: »

That's what there are doing with these plans. The VP plant for maintaining and cleaning trains will be gone as will 6 storage sidings behind the VP that are in heavy use off peak storing all the DMU sets. That unless they are going to have trains stored directly under the apartments built over them, and who would want to live directly over idling 29000 DMUs, they are nosy sods at the best of times.

why oh why would they remove sidings that are needed? they will probably store those sets outside dublin meaning more ECS moves and other possible complications.

ClovenHoof

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Apartments, is this a joke. There in a big apartment block right next to the Connolly wash road that has been empty since the boom, the internal fitout was never completed and now they are throwing up more.

The whole things reads like and April fools joke.

You do know that time does not actually end today and things can change in the future?

The issue here is not unfinished buildings near the station. But IE's obsession with being property developers and speculators. They were only stopped by the downturn of 2008.

Now with the economy improving they are like Dracula rising from the grave with their skyscraper and car park plans ready to go.

ClovenHoof

BonkeyDonker wrote: »

They are securing additional revenue for the foreseeable future from land that they own and cannot properly utilize. Revenue you would hope will be put back into the rail services. They should be applauded for doing this and not just selling it off for a one time gain.

What new gym equipment for the staff? A golfing weekend for the management at a top resort?

Can't wait!

ClovenHoof

metrovick001 wrote: »

I would have though it prudent for Irish rail to focus on rail related service provision - they have a long way to go.

This is the on going legacy of the Lynch-Fearn era.

I went to a presentation by some IE managers around 2007 on improving the rail system around Dublin and most of the presentation was about building apartment and office space at Connolly and Tara Street. Bit about the 'Interconnector' and other bits and bobs. The majority was about property development in one way or another.

When you look at the people in charge of the IE rail network it really is a terrifying moment of realisation.

Infini

ClovenHoof wrote: »

This is the on going legacy of the Lynch-Fearn era.

I went to a presentation by some IE managers around 2007 on improving the rail system around Dublin and most of the presentation was about building apartment and office space at Connolly and Tara Street. Bit about the 'Interconnector' and other bits and bobs. The majority was about property development in one way or another.

When you look at the people in charge of the rail IE rail network it really is a terrifying moment of realisation.

Yeah this is the problem with the Rail there's people up there that have 0 clue as how to actually run the place at times. Theres other people in the rail who would actually WANT to improve things but because of the way things are setup they dont get into a position where they could actually improve things. The last couple of year's its all been about gutting as much of the place as possible rather than investing in the infrastructure actually NEEDED for dublin like DU and that. The 10min service being delayed just today for example they want to blame the unions for the problems but theres alot more going on than just the pissed off workforce sick of their antics.